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The 912 Project - Glenn Beck

912 Group of Central Ohio

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[We could say [Democrats] spend money like drunken sailors, but that would be unfair to drunken sailors. It would be unfair, because the sailors are spending their own money. --Ronald ReaganAl Gore didn't invent the internet, he invented global warmingThe welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants - CamusThe person who advocates government planning of the economy always assumes that it is his plan that will be put into effect. --Hayek]

Pew Poll: global warming dead last, down from last year
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/01/25/pew-poll-global-warming-dead-last-down-from-last-year/


Hmmm. 

Explanation #1: Well!  It is obvious that the people are just getting dumber!  Perhaps the result of a public school education?

Explanation #2: People are catching on (through alternative media) to Climategate, Pachaurigate, Glaciergate, Amazongate, (the list continues to grow).

[We could say [Democrats] spend money like drunken sailors, but that would be unfair to drunken sailors. It would be unfair, because the sailors are spending their own money. --Ronald ReaganAl Gore didn't invent the internet, he invented global warmingThe welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants - CamusThe person who advocates government planning of the economy always assumes that it is his plan that will be put into effect. --Hayek]

WAIT, WAIT, WAIT!  I thought water (gas, not vapor) was INSIGNIFICANT compared to CO2 (at least according to the climate phrenologists).  I am so confused!


Water vapour could be behind warming slowdown

Mysterious changes in the stratosphere may have offset greenhouse effect.

Jeff Tollefson
Earth’s horizon against the blackness of spaceA loss of water vapour from the Earth's stratosphere may have been behind the last decade being cooler than expected.NASA

A puzzling drop in the amount of water vapour high in the Earth's atmosphere is now on the list of possible culprits causing average global temperatures to flatten out over the past decade, despite ever-increasing greenhouse-gas emissions.

Although the decade spanning 2000 to 2009 ranks as the warmest on record, average temperatures largely levelled off following two decades of rapid increases. Researchers have previously eyed everything from the Sun and oceans to random variability in order to explain the pause, which sceptics have claimed shows that climate models are unreliable.

http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100128/full/news.2010.42.html

The Advance of Science -- discovery of new knowledge and correcting past mistakes.

That's the difference between science of the denialists. The climate change deniers never have to revise or retract any of their beliefs - they seem to be cognitively  infallible. Can you point to any claim that climate change deniers have revised or retracted?

Water vapor is not considered a driver of climate change because it reacts to temperature change rather than drives it.

This new item is amazing. Less water vapor and less energy from the sun and still 2009 was the 2nd warmest year on record. Just goes to show you how significant atmospheric CO2 is as a greenhouse gas.

"Explanation #1: Well!  It is obvious that the people are just getting dumber!  Perhaps the result of a public school education?"    Nah!! because they watch FoxNews

"I am so confused!"  You said it not me

 

[We could say [Democrats] spend money like drunken sailors, but that would be unfair to drunken sailors. It would be unfair, because the sailors are spending their own money. --Ronald ReaganAl Gore didn't invent the internet, he invented global warmingThe welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants - CamusThe person who advocates government planning of the economy always assumes that it is his plan that will be put into effect. --Hayek]

Wait! You mean all of the previous exaggerations from the climate phrenologists about the feedback effect were just that, exaggerations?  I am shocked!  Can we ask for our tax dollars back from these snake oil salesmen?

New paper in Nature on CO2 amplification: “it’s less than we thought”

Amplification of Global Warming by Carbon-Cycle Feedback Significantly Less Than Thought, Study Suggests

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/01/28/new-paper-in-nature-on-co2-amplification-its-less-than-we-thought/

O.K. seriously.

I believe there is global warming.  A recent report by the American Association for the Advancement of Science illustrates this.

"From an AAAS policy alert of 1-28-10: (available to members only)
 
2000-2009 Was Warmest Decade on Record. New global average surface temperature figures from NASA show that the decade ending in 2009 was the warmest on record and that 2009 was the second warmest year since 1880, when modern temperature measurement began."

What is not clear, as the Nature article illustrates, is whether this is a sustained increase or a temporal fluctuation.

What is also not clear is whether this warming is due to a natural and cyclical long term event (which we can't control)  or due to human activity (which we can control).  Mitigation of the predicted (note predicted) consequences of this warming require actions which might appear premature but given the long time required for implementation should be considered as soon as possible.

The wisdom of adopting worse case scenarios in a thoughtful (non hysterical) way is clear to me. By the same token. hysterical, demeaning and politically motivated denial serves no good purpose because of the long time needed for implementation of mitigating policies.  The probability is that neither you  nor I will live long enough to see the event play out (either way) so that the short term policies that are/not applied may result in consequences that our children/grandchildren will have to live with. 

Science (a truism repeated to ad nauseum) works by test and retest which conclusions always tentative and correctable with each new experiment until the weight of evidence becomes so overwhelming that the conclusion is accepted as real.

 As far as I am concerned the jury is still out on what is causing that warming but I would rather assume that it is something I can do something about rather than simply accept (and be wrong) that it is a natural phenomenon.

In some ways this debate is similar to the N1H1 debate that graced the CTH pages some time ago.  Do we know if the severity of the pandemic was reduced because the virus was not as serious as feared or because those precautions that were taken world wide helped mitigate the consequences?  There is no way of knowing.   That was a short term event, global warming is a long term proposition.

The Shadow

I take it that you are a member of the American Association for the Advancement of Science?  (no link)

"I take it that you are a member of the American Association for the Advancement of Science?"

No I am not.  I read Science via another subscription.  The item (might appear in the next issue of Science) was forwarded to me by a friend whom I trust.

The Shadow

[We could say [Democrats] spend money like drunken sailors, but that would be unfair to drunken sailors. It would be unfair, because the sailors are spending their own money. --Ronald ReaganAl Gore didn't invent the internet, he invented global warmingThe welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants - CamusThe person who advocates government planning of the economy always assumes that it is his plan that will be put into effect. --Hayek]

Well, that seals it!  If it is good enough for Osama Bin Laden, it is good enough for me, darn it! 
This just keeps getting better and better..

Best lines I have heard so far:

Perhaps OBL can be a lead editor for Wikipedia or RealClimate?
Remember, if you support the IPCC, the terrorists win!
Does that make Waxman and Gore the American Taliban?


Bin Laden blasts US for climate change

By SALAH NASRAWI

CAIRO (AP) - Al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden has called for the world to boycott American goods and the U.S. dollar, blaming the United States and other industrialized countries for global warming, according to a new audiotape released Friday.

In the tape, broadcast in part on Al-Jazeera television, bin Laden warned of the dangers of climate change and says that the way to stop it is to bring "the wheels of the American economy" to a halt.

He blamed Western industrialized nations for hunger, desertification and floods across the globe, and called for "drastic solutions" to global warming, and "not solutions that partially reduce the effect of climate change."

Bin Laden has mentioned climate change and global warning in past messages, but the latest tape was his first dedicated to the topic. The speech, which included almost no religious rhetoric, could be an attempt by the terror leader to give his message an appeal beyond Islamic militants.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20100129/D9DHDH582.html

The Shadow:

"As far as I am concerned the jury is still out on what is causing that warming but I would rather assume that it is something I can do something about rather than simply accept (and be wrong) that it is a natural phenomenon."

On what other things is the jury still out on?  Weapons of mass destruction in Iraq?

I don't know how to measure levels of confidence in criminal trials -- nor, it seems, must confidence levels be rigorously applied by juries since so many innocent people are found guilty.

I'll suggest that statisticians have something useful to say about confidence levels and that there is better than a 95% probability that global warming is caused by an increase in atmospheric CO2.

Jury still out? I think I'd vote to convict CO2. 

[We could say [Democrats] spend money like drunken sailors, but that would be unfair to drunken sailors. It would be unfair, because the sailors are spending their own money. --Ronald ReaganAl Gore didn't invent the internet, he invented global warmingThe welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants - CamusThe person who advocates government planning of the economy always assumes that it is his plan that will be put into effect. --Hayek]

Let me get this straight; the SEC doesn't have the time or the resources to track down fraud (Bernie Madoff) or violations but it does have the resources to force companies to file bogus reports for a bogus problem.  The good news is, Bernie Madoff stole primarily from liberals (which should mean that they will have less money to spend on programs or candidates that will ruin our country).  Perhaps, then, the Madoff liberals will be outraged enough by this to do something about it.  Nah! They're too busy watching CNN, The Daily Show, and MSDNC to actually know what is going on.  Or maybe they think it is such a good cause that fraud must be perpetuated for the greater good..

Inconvenient Disclosure?   [Edward John Craig]

The S.E.C. voted to force publicly traded companies to "disclose in their public filings the impact of climate change on their businesses — from new regulations or legislation they may face domestically or abroad, to potential changes in economic trends or physical risks to a company."

What happens when these disclosures show how much the Obama Energy Tax would cost these companies — costs they will immediately pass on to their customers? Proponents of cap-and-trade may wind up regretting this particular bit of red tape.

http://planetgore.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTJjMmQ1NzE4OTJkYWIxNjczOWRhMDliNDg5ZmNmOWQ=

[We could say [Democrats] spend money like drunken sailors, but that would be unfair to drunken sailors. It would be unfair, because the sailors are spending their own money. --Ronald ReaganAl Gore didn't invent the internet, he invented global warmingThe welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants - CamusThe person who advocates government planning of the economy always assumes that it is his plan that will be put into effect. --Hayek]

Math?  Why would liberals worry about math when they are spending other people's money?  Plus, if they really understood math, would we be in the mess we are in?

Green Math Is Bad Math

By Andrew Cline

On the front page of the New York Times' online edition Sunday was an artist's rendering of the pride and joy of the federal General Services Administration: a renovated federal building in Portland, Ore., that features plants growing up all 18 stories of one side.

"They will bloom in the spring and summer when you want the shade, and then they will go away in the winter when you want to let the light in," Bob Peck, commissioner of public buildings for the G.S.A., told the Times, adding, "Don't ask me how you get them irrigated."

Don't ask how much they cost, either.

I told you not to ask.

OK, I'll tell you: The entire renovation costs $133 million. The plants are only one component, but the G.S.A. admits that the renovation is being undertaken for the purpose of making the building "green." Done as a project of the Office of Federal High-Performance Green Buildings, the renovation is Oregon's largest federal stimulus project.

The Obama administration proudly boasts that the effort will dramatically reduce the building's energy use, thereby saving federal taxpayers $280,000 a year in energy costs.

Now here comes the fun part.

http://spectator.org/archives/2010/02/01/green-math-is-bad-math

[We could say [Democrats] spend money like drunken sailors, but that would be unfair to drunken sailors. It would be unfair, because the sailors are spending their own money. --Ronald ReaganAl Gore didn't invent the internet, he invented global warmingThe welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants - CamusThe person who advocates government planning of the economy always assumes that it is his plan that will be put into effect. --Hayek]

Lonnie Thompson, Bryan Mark to discuss Peruvian glaciers Feb. 16

Bryan Mark, assistant professor of geography, and Lonnie Thompson, professor of Earth Sciences will discuss their research on glaciers in the region of the Cordillera Blanca of Peru at 7 p.m. Tuesday (2/16) in 240 Scott Hall. A question and answer period will follow their 20-minute presentations, ending around 8:30 p.m. The public is invited, and a special invitation is offered to OSU faculty, staff and students who are native to South America.

RSVP at http://bprc.osu.edu/ (under News link). Contact: Carol Landis, mailto:landis.83@osu.edu or 688-8279

[We could say [Democrats] spend money like drunken sailors, but that would be unfair to drunken sailors. It would be unfair, because the sailors are spending their own money. --Ronald ReaganAl Gore didn't invent the internet, he invented global warmingThe welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants - CamusThe person who advocates government planning of the economy always assumes that it is his plan that will be put into effect. --Hayek]

If a 100ft sea level rise wasn't enough of an exaggeration for you, you can set the bar to 200ft (197 to be more exact).


A January 12, 2010 Earth Observatory article warns that Antarctica

    “has been losing more than a hundred cubic kilometers (24 cubic miles) of ice each year since 2002” and that “if all of this ice melted, it would raise global sea level by about 60 meter (197 feet).“

If sea level rose 60 meters, that would wipe out most of the world’s population – which would no doubt make some environmentalists happy.  Sadly for them though, Antarctica contains 30 × 106 km3 of ice which means that it will take 300,000 years for all the ice to melt at NASA’s claimed current rate of 100 km3 per year.  (Chances are that we will run out of fossil fuels long before then.)  The surface area of Antarctica is 14.2 million km2 which would indicate an average melt of less than 7 millimeters per year across the continent.  (Is NASA claiming that they can measure changes in Antarctic ice thickness within 7 millimeters?)  But even more problematic is that UAH satellite data shows no increase in temperatures in Antarctica, rather a small decline.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/02/03/nasa-still-spreading-antarctic-fud/

Sorry, excuse my ignorance. Please explain what is false about this statement:

A January 12, 2010 Earth Observatory article warns that Antarctica

    “has been losing more than a hundred cubic kilometers (24 cubic miles) of ice each year since 2002” and that “if all of this ice melted, it would raise global sea level by about 60 meter (197 feet).“

As I understand it, Antarctica is not going to lose all of its ice mass. This sentence does not claim that it will. It says that IF it melts.

IF we piled all this ice on the state of Connecticut it would reach a height of x miles. Notice this does not say we will pile it on Connecticut.

The scary thing is that Antarctica is losing its ice mass at an increasing rate.
Do you understand the concept of exponential loss?

Ice loss is accelerating at a rate of 26 Gigatonnes/yr^2.
That little exponent ^2 makes it scary.