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The 912 Project - Glenn Beck

912 Group of Central Ohio

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Median waiting time for radiation treatment for breast cancer in province of Ontario: 8 weeks
Median waiting time for angioplasty in the province of British Columbia: 12 weeks
Median waiting time for radiation treatment for prostate cancer in province of Quebec: 12 weeks
Median waiting time for cataract removal in the province of Ontario: 20 weeks.
Median waiting time for cataract removal in the province of Saskatchewan: 52 weeks.
Median waiting time for a tonsillectomy in the province of Saskatchewan: 80 weeks.

http://www.parapundit.com/archives/000634.html

The report examined the results of a 2003 survey of medical equipment. Canada had 147 MRI scanners in January 2003 compared to 30 in 1993, an increase of 400 per cent. The number of CT scanners rose by 50 per cent in the same time period, from 216 to 326.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/healthcare/mri.html


Nine out of ten Canadians feel that bad management, lack of funding and
shortage of medical staff are responsible for the current problems in the
Canadian health care system

More than 50% of Canadians are satisfied with the current health care system.

http://www.legermarketing.com/documents/sp...m/010709eng.pdf


Canada’s Abysmal Health Technology Record

Canada currently ranks a depressing nineteenth in a comparison of 25 OECD countries for MRI availability

http://oldfraser.lexi.net/publications/for...section_12.html
 

Averaged across all 12 medical specialties and 10 provinces surveyed, total waiting time rose from 13.3 weeks in 1998 to 14 weeks in 1999, a 5.3 percent increase. Waiting times have increased a dramatic 51 percent since 1993, when the median total wait for Canadian patients to receive treatment was 9.3 weeks.

http://oldfraser.lexi.net/media/media_rele...1/20010125.html

Current data (again from the OECD) shows that Canada has one of the lowest ranks in terms of number of doctors per capita, 23rd out of 29, better only than countries like Mexico, Turkey, and Korea. Further, the OECD data combines general practitioners and specialists, understating Canada's true problem: few specialists per capita.

http://oldfraser.lexi.net/media/media_rele...1/20010125.html

Some Canadians do come to the United States to get treatment. But it is greatly exaggerated, the number who do. Yes, on the border, in Cleveland, Buffalo, hospitals will cater to rich Canadians who come across the border for things that they want in a hurry.

http://www.pbs.org/healthcarecrisis/Exprts...vw/m_angell.htm

Canada wide problem and it is mostly due to the incompetence of our politicians  
and bureaucrats, be in Saskatchewan or elsewhere.  

http://www.ftlcomm.com/ensign/desantisArti...healthcare.html

 

Here in the US Politicians play games with the funding of the VA, our attempt at socialized medicine

http://www.usmedicine.com/article.cfm?arti...=485&issueID=42

Healthcare spending in 2001 accounted for 14.1 percent of the US gross domestic product (GDP), the nation's total output of goods and services. By 2012, that share will rise to 17.7 percent, projects the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, a federal agency in Baltimore.

That expense level is far higher than for all other well-to-do nations. The Paris-based Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development finds that 28 of its member nations spend, on average, 8 percent of GDP on healthcare.

Canada devotes 9.1 percent of GDP to its system of government- financed healthcare for all citizens.


http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0218/p16s01-coop.html

Somehow Canada improves healthcare by spending less on it. My, what a utopia they live in. Canada braggs about spending less on their healthcare system. Now that is a system you can count on to develop new drugs that run at about 800 million a pop.

Lack of spending lack of Nobel Prize Winners, and they don't come cheap.

http://members.shaw.ca/delajara/Nobels.html
 

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Here's a good Walter William's overview of the "free" Canadian health care system.

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Free health care
Walter E. Williams (from Townhall)

July 21, 2004

 Let's start out by not quibbling with America's socialists' false claim that health-care service is a human right that people should have regardless of whether they can pay for it or not and that it should be free. Before we buy into this socialist agenda, we might check out just what happens when health-care services are "free." Let's look at our neighbor to the north -- Canada.

 The Fraser Institute, a Vancouver, B.C.-based think tank, has done yeoman's work keeping track of Canada's socialized health-care system. It has just come out with its 13th annual waiting-list survey. It shows that the average time a patient waited between referral from a general practitioner to treatment rose from 16.5 weeks in 2001-02 to 17.7 weeks in 2003. Saskatchewan had the longest average waiting time of nearly 30 weeks, while Ontario had the shortest, 14 weeks.

 Waiting lists also exist for diagnostic procedures such as computer tomography (CT), magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) and ultrasound. Depending on what province and the particular diagnostic procedure, the waiting times can range from two to 24 weeks.

 As reported in a December 2003 story by Kerri Houston for the Frontiers of Freedom Institute titled "Access Denied: Canada's Healthcare System Turns Patients Into Victims," in some instances, patients die on the waiting list because they become too sick to tolerate a procedure. Houston says that hip-replacement patients often end up non-ambulatory while waiting an average of 20 weeks for the procedure, and that's after having waited 13 weeks just to see the specialist. The wait to get diagnostic scans followed by the wait for the radiologist to read them just might explain why Cleveland, Ohio, has become Canada's hip-replacement center.

 Adding to Canada's medical problems is the exodus of doctors. According to a March 2003 story in Canada News (www.canoe.ca), about 10,000 doctors left Canada during the 1990s. Compounding the exodus of doctors is the drop in medical school graduates. According to Houston, Ontario has chosen to turn to nurses to replace its bolting doctors. It's "creating" 369 new positions for nurse practitioners to take up the slack for the doctor shortage.

 Some patients avoided long waits for medical services by paying for private treatment. In 2003, the government of British Columbia enacted Bill 82, an "Amendment to Strengthen Legislation and Protect Patients." On its face, Bill 82 is to "protect patients from inadvertent billing errors." That's on its face. But according to a January 2004 article written by Nadeem Esmail for the Fraser Institute's Forum and titled "Oh to Be a Prisoner," Bill 82 would disallow anyone from paying the clinical fees for private surgery, where previously only the patients themselves were forbidden from doing so. The bill also gives the government the power to levy fines of up to $20,000 on physicians who accept these fees or allow such a practice to occur. That means it is now against Canadian law to opt out of the Canadian health-care system and pay for your own surgery.

 Health care can have a zero price to the user, but that doesn't mean it's free or has a zero cost. The problem with a good or service having a zero price is that demand is going to exceed supply. When price isn't allowed to make demand equal supply, other measures must be taken. One way to distribute the demand over a given supply is through queuing -- making people wait. Another way is to have a medical czar who decides who is eligible, under what conditions, for a particular procedure -- for example, no hip replacement or renal dialysis for people over 70 or no heart transplants for smokers.

 I'm wondering just how many Americans would like Canada's long waiting lists, medical czars deciding what treatments we get and an exodus of doctors.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/walterw...w20040721.shtml

There was a WSJ bit a few months ago about "outsourcing".  The job otsourced was a major surgery (checst cracking type of thing), and was done in India.  Nice and cheap.  The patient was Canadian.  Hmmm

But most Cubans, reliant on the supposedly universal health system, have to pay for even basic drugs such as aspirin and the equivalent of £30 for "extras" such as X-rays.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml...6/wcastro06.xml

Stronach went to U.S. for cancer treatment: report
Updated Fri. Sep. 14 2007 7:57 AM ET

CTV.ca News Staff

Liberal MP Belinda Stronach, who is battling breast cancer, travelled to California last June for an operation that was recommended as part of her treatment, says a report.

Stronach's spokesman, Greg MacEachern, told the Toronto Star that the MP for Newmarket-Aurora had a "later-stage" operation in the U.S. after a Toronto doctor referred her.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/stor...0914?hub=Health

http://sicko.ncpa.org/

How Good is Canadian Health Care? 2006 Report:
An International Comparison of Health Care Systems
Publication Date: December 2006
Publication Format: Digital Publications
 
Author(s):
Nadeem Esmail, Director, Health System Performance Studies, The Fraser Institute
Email: nadeeme@fraserinstitute.ca
Telephone: (403) 216-7175 ext 222
 
 
Dr. Michael Walker, Senior Fellow & President, The Fraser Institute Foundation
Email: michaelw@fraserinstitute.ca
Telephone: (604) 714-4545
 
 
Executive Summary: This edition of How Good is Canadian Health Care? provides answers to a series of questions that are important to resolve if Canada is to make the correct choices as it amends its health care policies. The study is strictly comparative and examines a wide number of factors for the member countries of the OECD in arriving at the answers to the questions posed. In this study, we primarily compare Canada to other countries that also have universal access, publicly funded, health care systems. Since the United States and Mexico do not, we often ignore these countries in the comparisons made. The study's focus, therefore, is not whether we should "abandon the key elements of Canada's compassionate approach to health care delivery," but how we organize to achieve it. To answer this crucial question, which is also the focus of the current debate about health care reform in Canada, we examine whether other industrialized, universal-access countries have implemented those policies that are at the centre of the health care debate in Canada: policies that have been shown to produce, at lower cost, superior access to, and outcomes from, health care than Canada's policies do.
http://www.fraserinstitute.ca/shared/readm...?sNav=pb&id=877