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« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2005, 07:32:03 AM »
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I received the following email today from Townhall.com

Fed Up with Meetup

Dear Townhall Reader:
During the 2004 Democratic primary, new online site Meetup.com gained media notoriety as it propelled the Howard Dean campaign to the forefront of the Democratic ticket. Thousands of liberals were meeting monthly to send Dean to the White House. The liberal media bias had spawned a liberal online virus. In response, Townhall.com decided to counter the liberal invasion and co-opt Meetup for its own purposes: to further the conservative agenda.

Using Townhall’s resources, we promoted the Meetup groups to you - our valued Townhall.com readers. With great success, our Meetup force grew to over 25,000 people strong. Townhall enthusiasts all over the nation – and in some cases, the world - were meeting to promote conservative ideals.

Regrettably, we were recently shocked, as many of you were, to learn about the implementation of Meetup group fees – $19 per month ($228 per year) to be paid by each of the group organizers. Moreover, I was notified of the change only one day prior to each of you. As a paying and longtime customer, I was not pleased about how this was handled. This is not how Townhall treats its readers and I certainly don’t want Townhall’s good name to be associated with such practices.

To address this situation, I sent an email to Townhall.com Meetup organizers asking for their help in determining Townhall.com’s future relationship with Meetup.com. We considered the following options:

1. Continue using Townhall.com resources to sponsor Meetups for at least the next three months (Meetup.com now requires a 3-month contract); or

2. Build our own Townhall.com Meetup-type service and transition away from Meetup.com.

The response we received was unanimous! Effective this Thursday, Townhall.com will officially end its relationship with Meetup.com. In place of Meetup, Townhall will begin developing a custom solution to better cater to the needs of our Townhall Meetup members and organizers [Option #2].

You can expect the following improvements:

Easier and more intuitive interface.
Conservatives only! No Deaniacs, no pagans, no liberals.
Greater integration with Townhall.com.
Tools to facilitate action and coordination.
Currently, we expect to offer a Beta version of our service sometime in September 2005. If you would like to be updated on site developments, please register here.
We look forward to offering you a new and compelling service in the near future! Until then, please continue to fight against the liberal left and keep meeting with fellow conservatives!

We thank you for all of your effort and dedication to Townhall.com.

Sincerely,

Drew Bond
President & CEO
Townhall.com
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« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2005, 08:06:29 AM »
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At first, I was surprised when I also received the above email.    But, after a few moments of reflection, it occured to me that while Townhall has, over the years, requested donations to help support their efforts, they have never CHARGED anyone to use any of their on-line offerings.   I can, and do, therefore, support the above effort on their part to provide a new venue to promote what they first began (the Meetup concept) in a manner that will remain free and open to all CONSERVATIVES.

Two of the newer features are of particular interest to me and I hope many other CTH members;  
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Conservatives only! No Deaniacs, no pagans, no liberals.
Greater integration with Townhall.com.

So count me in as a supporter of this Townhall.com effort.[/size]
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« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2005, 04:03:57 PM »
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At first, I was surprised when I also received the above email.    But, after a few moments of reflection, it occured to me that while Townhall has, over the years, requested donations to help support their efforts, they have never CHARGED anyone to use any of their on-line offerings.   I can, and do, therefore, support the above effort on their part to provide a new venue to promote what they first began (the Meetup concept) in a manner that will remain free and open to all CONSERVATIVES.

Two of the newer features are of particular interest to me and I hope many other CTH members;  
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Conservatives only! No Deaniacs, no pagans, no liberals.
Greater integration with Townhall.com.

So count me in as a supporter of this Townhall.com effort.[/size]
So does this mean I shouldn't post here anymore, since I don't have a political home?  
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« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2005, 05:37:38 PM »
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Ah gee, Jensta...you have some good conservative instincts.  We like to debate among friends here...and maybe learn something in the process.  I for one am not trying to scare anyone away or make them unwelcome (except Butler sometimes, but only when he rides his Black Helicopter).  Cheesy  
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« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2005, 09:56:32 PM »
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I agree wholeheartedly with Dain.     I'm not interested in running anyone off either, save for the occasional flaming, whining, crybaby Leftist, Socialist, Liberals who try to sneak in unannounced.    I just happen to have little to no use for those who are devoid of solutions for any of the problems we may face beyond higher taxes.

Jensta, welcome!  
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« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2005, 11:42:08 PM »
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Aww, thanks guys! I really appreciate that ... I just don't want to make anyone uncomfortable by being here. I promise you that I am no liberal, and I'm certainly not a crybaby .... lol. I'm just trying to find my spot so to speak.  Cheesy  
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« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2005, 07:02:47 AM »
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I got this one from Meetup:

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Dear Townhall Meetup Members,

You may have heard that Townhall.com has decided not to sponsor
your Meetup Groups.

Their decision will likely have little or no effect on your
Meetup Groups anytime soon. You've grown some great Meetup
Groups across America, and they function today the same way
that they did yesterday. Their future is up to you.

So far, almost half of the local Townhall Meetup Organizers
have taken care of the Group Fees that make this site possible.
Let's all thank these great Meetup Organizers.

We also want to thank Townhall.com for showing you that you've
got the freedom to create great Meetups in your town. It seems
to me that the Heritage Foundation prefers more "central
control" over who, where, and how you organize around the your
agenda. Meetup.com's mission is to provide for the needs of the
local groups, first and foremost. How you organize your groups
and choose to affiliate is up to you. We wish Townhall.com well.

We are a business. We hope to strengthen community for all
Americans.  We intend to earn our fee. You've had great success
with Meetup.com because we have some of America's best
engineers and staff working hard on it every day for over three
years now. In the months ahead, we're going to make Meetup.com
even better and easier to use. 

Townhall.com thinks that they can replicate it on a non-
profit's budget in a few months? As Ronald Reagan once said,
"the best minds are not in government; if any were, business
would hire them away."  On that note, I'd like to give a
special thanks to Jon Garthwaite at Townhall.com. He had the
vision for Townhall Meetups, and he's a good guy. I hope to
hire hire him away someday!

By the way, have you ever seen the map of all Townhall Meetups
across America?
http://townhall.meetup.com/about

Good luck with your Meetups and if you need any help, we are
here for you,

Scott Heiferman CEO Meetup.com
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« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2005, 07:48:50 AM »
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Can someone explain all this angst to me?  Here we have an organization that, for tax reasons I suppose, branched off Townhall.  Now they are acting like two wildcats tied together in a sack.  What gives?  This is the kind of thing I expect from liberal organizations like Air America.
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« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2005, 08:11:38 AM »
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Just so long as CHT doesn't start bouncing checks like Air America did....  :lol:  
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« Reply #24 on: May 14, 2005, 06:15:24 AM »
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From Townhall.com 5/13:

Dear loyal readers,

On Thursday, we decided that it was time to step away from the Meetup system and begin a new chapter in conservative online activism.  

The text of that announcement is here:
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/GuestCo...d20050511.shtml

The encouragement and number of compliments from our readers were amazing and humbling.  Thank you.

Shortly after our announcement, Meetup sent an email announcement to anyone who had signed up for the Townhall.com Meetup, claiming that nothing is changing and misrepresenting some facts.

Normally I'd just ignore something like this, but the trust of our readers is very important to me and I felt we needed to respond.  We wanted to let you know what the future has in store for the Townhall local chapters.  We wish Meetup.com the best.  Townhall local organizers and the staff here in Washington just have bigger plans.

There were many reasons why this decision was made, and it was probably inevitable.  However, our decision was hastened by Meetup’s poorly planned price increase imposed upon our readers.  What bothered us most about this was the burden it put upon you with very little notice - certainly not enough notice to find other outlets for your online activism.

Meetup’s new revenue model has caused an uproar on almost all of the Meetup message boards, and I even learned today that May 15th is the unofficial "Step-Down-As-Meetup-Organizer" day across more than 2,000 different topic groups.

Over the entire course of our relationship with Meetup, our readers have expressed dissatisfaction with the system.  While Meetup was trying to satisfy myriad different groups, Townhall readers were frustrated with their inability to communicate with each other, to organize with other state and national Townhall groups, and to make a real impact.

The Meetup CEO seems to think we intend to try and re-create the Meetup system.  Rather than following Meetup’s business model of trying to build a system that makes every single interest group happy, we intend to create the system that Townhall.com readers really want - a system that will let you communicate with each other and coordinate across the nation.

We intend to give you the functionality and flexibility you've been requesting for a long time.

Stay tuned.  Great things are ahead for the Townhall.com local chapters and the entire team is committed to your success.  I am proud of the Townhall.com team and everything they have accomplished.   Onward and upward.

To stay informed as we move forward with this new endeavor, register here:
http://www.townhall.com/meet/

Sincerely,
Jonathan Garthwaite
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« Reply #25 on: June 21, 2005, 10:18:19 PM »
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I would like to propose a modified venue. When we met in the private room at Buckeye HOF Cafe, the meeting atmosphere was fantastic. I attended the June meeting where we sat at a long rectangular table in the middle of the restaurant - it was pathetic.

If we can't obtain a private room at BHOF Cafe, is there another location? It was the room that was important to me, not the food. Don't get me wrong I'm a big fan of eating, but the meeting is important to me and the real reason I take time away from the family to be there.

I'm not suggesting we change anything for July, but I will attend the meetings if we can get back to the atmosphere we once had.


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« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2005, 12:35:33 AM »
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Thanks for throwing me in front of the bus, Counter. <_<   By the way, is that short for "bean-counter"?

At any rate, Tweet, Jensta, (and possibly a few others) had suggested a call to action for our last meeting.  Unfortunately, due to schedules and other commitments, this was not able to happen.  Shall we try again, at the meeting or maybe somewhere else?
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« Reply #27 on: June 22, 2005, 05:45:22 PM »
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Well let's see if we can receive some clear information as to what is really going to happen relatively soon.

My suggestion is that time is something we don't have alot of dealing with the this school situation. I am going to suggest that those of us Fettucini II, Jensta, Mr Butler and whomever else is interested in meeting to deal with CPS we manage it on a late Saturday or Sunday afternoon at a meeting place yet to be determined. This is something that should accomplish within the next 2 weeks in order for us to get our bearings and enlist whomever else is interested helping.........Huh??
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How much would Buckeye Hall of Fame Cafe charge for a private room?

Anywhere else we can go that would be able to provide us a private room?

The old meetings where we had our own room were better when you felt comfortable to stand up and make announcements, or pontificate, or whatever and not have to worry about what the table next to you does about it. (Fetuccini II may recall the hassle a few of us had at a local retaurant when two old women at a table next to us complained to our waiter about us...we were all just having a good time....)
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« Reply #29 on: August 27, 2005, 11:38:56 AM »
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BHoF charged $75 for the big room, but Panera on High street has a small conference room (8 to 10 people) that's free if you book in advance. It may be that most Panera locations offer this.

But don't underestimate the value of "pontification" in public. At CTH's largest meeting (~40 people) in October we were quite loud and some of the other patrons got involved and even took Bush/Cheney yard signs for their own homes. If the libs can't stand the heat, they'll leave, and anyone that agrees may stick around!  Tongue
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