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The 912 Project - Glenn Beck

912 Group of Central Ohio

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I work in collections. Part of my job is to file charges for businesses who get ripped off by criminal bad check writers.

Last week, I called Maple Heights to file on a state worker who has written 71 bad checks on a closed account. She included them in a bankruptcy, even though PBC (passing bad checks) is a criminal offense and aren't supposed to be included. Maple Heights told me they no longer take PBC cases, because they are underfunded.

I tried in vain for 30 minutes to explain to this nimwit that it's their job to prosecute cases on behalf of victims, and not be judge jury & executioner themselves. She hung up on me. At this point, I'd had enough, since I've been trying for four years to get Columbus to change its "pay for justice" program (courtesy of Richard Pfeiffer). That's where the business has to pay $4.50 per check before his office will CONSIDER them for charges.

Finally, I called the state AG's office. The guy I talked to was a director (Mike Dobbins or something like that). He told me that city prosecutors have BROAD DISCRETION when determining which cases can be filed. When I explained that I was upset because these attorneys are making policy that supersedes state law, he said they are ALLOWED TO DO JUST THAT.

I told him that we elect lawmakers to make laws, and city prosecutors to try the cases - not the other way around. I went on to say that if people knew how much UNCHECKED POWER these prosecutors have, they would not be happy. He said no one oversees these offices. I pointed out that those "policies" were certainly not helping Ohio to be business friendly, and he agreed. Then he said, and I quote:

"If you people (businesses) want us to prosecute all these little crimes, maybe you should pay more money."

Shocked, I asked if by this he meant more taxes. He said YES. I reminded him that Ohio is right behind Taxachusetts in what we pay already, and that these "policies" hurt the very entities that employ people who pay taxes in the first place!!!!

He raised his voice .... I raised mine .... .nothing got accomplished. This blows my mind, and is exactly why we need to reign in these idiots in government.

Thanks for letting me vent. What do you guys think about all this?

wow that hurts- Does the bankruptcy bill that Bush just signed into law help this problem at all?


Was the official position of the AG's office really to raise taxes? If so, Ken Blackwell should run with that straight to the media.

No, the bankruptcy bill is much ado about nothing really. Of course, you can't bankrupt any government debts ..... which cracks me up .... but the trustees don't enforce the criminal part of it unless it's an actual court fine. What's owed to businesses isn't quite as important in their eyes.

One woman wrote $1000 worth of checks for pizza (of all things) before she filed. The trustee, Craig Shopneck out of Cleveland, said he didn't consider that to be extraordinary.

So yes, according to Petro's director dude higher taxes is their position. All this just happened last week. I told him he might be more sympathetic if he ever bothered to leave the comfort of the public sector ... then I told him the AG's office was worthless, which offended him greatly. I told him to prove me wrong then.

 

that is really amazing- I am shocked that the office would be that confrontational. At the very least, I would expect them to give you the run around or a less direct answer.

would you want to make a guest post about this situation on my blog, http://www.ohioforblackwell.com ?

It would be helpful to be sure the mans name is Mike Dobbins or not. If you want to clean up your initial post and post it here, I would love to post it. The site has been getting a ton of traffic so it would be the perfect way to vent and let people know about the AG's office's incompetence.

I'd be happy to. Monday morning I'll find out what the guy's name is for sure. In the meantime, feel free to crosspost if you want to.

Not only does Petro's office take the position that higher taxes are the answer, but they don't see anything wrong with city attorneys overriding state law. Where is our system of checks and balances? They all seem to have Coleman-itis, where no one is responsible for anything .... my God, if it isn't the AG, who is it??

Let's not forget that a "pay for justice" approach is so unconstitutional! I have stacks and stacks of documents where we've tried to get someone to do something .... no one is interested. When I was talking to this Mike guy, I said:

"So maybe the fact that your office doesn't view businesses being ripped off as a priority might be why Ohio is at the bottom of the list of best states to do business in!"

His reply? "Yes, you're probably right."

Well whatever you do, don't break a sweat DOING anything about it. Yeah, let's elect HIS boss in Taft's place.

Not.
 

youre right- i couldnt agree with you more


I'd rather wait until Monday to be totally sure- I'll call some of my friends downtown to double check this too.

I've been looking through my state employee directory, hoping the name would pop out at me. I'm only just now through the G's, so I think I'll wait and call on Monday.  

The guy I talked to was Mark Gribbon. I had to call him for a clarification on something else anyway.

 

thank you- What do you other guys think? I'd like to post this on ohioforblackwell.com but  I'm not sure whats the best way to go about it. Its an incredibly interesting story  

Ok after I reread this thread a few times, I believe this situation is fair game for your blog. The employee's attitude directly reflects on Petro. Perhaps should this come to light it will mysterously be changed.

[Edmund Burke]

Before you go hatin' on the guy, how high up is he?  If he's essentially a clerk, then I don't think you should blog away on him -- just a low-level functionary having a bad day -- no sport in that.  I'd give Petro's office another chance (maybe even complain about this guy...let their internal protocols go to work, if they have them).  On the other hand, if this guy is one of Petro's lieutenants, blog away.  People in responsible positions should...well...act responsibly.

[basic right of justice]

We're all wondering why businesses are leaving the state, and crime in the cities is skyrocketing. THIS is why.

Their logic: Bad check cases clog up the courts. In order NOT to clog the courts, they either a) don't take the cases, or B.) charge the victims for the PRIVILEGE of justice. Forget the fact that the law is being broken, day after day .....

It's pretty clear to me that the courts being "clogged" is a MINOR inconvenience when compared to businesses being repeatedly victimized by crooks. In the private sector, a company with bad business practices either changes (ie unclog) or goes under. How is it our problem that they can't effciently manage their caseload?

In any event, that argument holds no water because the few cases we do file are rarely heard by judges.  Businesses pay taxes too, and yet the basic right of justice is not available to them.

I posted it on http://www.ohioforblackwell.com

Are there any changes I should make?

Very well put! And nice blog btw.

The only change I'd suggest is this .... I'm not a "he." It's no big deal though - you can leave it as is.  

Thank you! I always got into trouble with my feminazi English teachers when I would always use "he" when I was not sure which sex the person was. The post is fixed, and I apologize ma'am.