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Has the Republican Party given up on Columbus?
« on: April 30, 2005, 08:11:29 PM »
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In the eyes of many, that would seem to be the case. Democrats own city council, the school board, and the mayors office. All of this, virtually unopposed by any serious alternative from the Republican Party.
But maybe I'm missing something. What do you think?
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« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2005, 08:32:21 PM »
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I would say "yes." When they can't even field a candidate for mayor, it's a serious sign that Columbus is a write-off. Stupid, really.
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« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2005, 09:58:17 PM »
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During the protest @ John Cougar's little outing @ Promo West this last fall I asked one of the local Republican higher-ups that very question and the answer I received was.
"We need to start with making sure W is relected and then work from the govenor's office on down".
I don't know about you that wasn't really comforting to me at all. I guess they will become a little more concerned when mayor mike enforces 2" haircuts.
If anyone from the state GOP reads this posting: I am complaining AND I am not happy that we are living in the "People's Republic of Columbus". I guess since most of the elected officials in local and state governmet don't have kids in public schools none of these issues we are now dealing with mean nothing to them.
Does it really take someone like Glenn Beck to kick off the retaking of the mayors office and city council?
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I don't need John Kerry or big brother to wipe my ass, don't need Ted Kennedy to spill my glass, Al Not So Sharpton is a racist lying horses ass, Redistribution is a fkn laugh, the whole damn world can kiss my a**.
I don't need nobody to hold my hand, don't need nobody, I can stand. Make it on my own in a Rock-n-Roll band, kiss my ass cuz I'm a American.
Ya say you're friends with Michael Moore. Then you are friends with pimps & whores, The 2nd Amendment aint about no sport, no ri
Has the Republican Party given up on Columbus?
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2005, 10:31:37 PM »
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The Repubs have a "gentleman's agreement" with the Dems not to push certain races - like they won't pour $$ into the mayoral (sp?) candidate of the Dems won't push a judicial spot, etc.
The Franklin County Republican party gave up on us when Coleman first took office ... I know this because I asked the same question, in person, a few years back, and that's what they told me.
That's when I changed my party affiliation. :angry:
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« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2005, 10:23:57 AM »
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Hi Folks,
As a Republican, I have certainly not given up on Columbus.
Over the past few years, I worked with various groups to change the City's annexation policy in the Darby Watershed concerning sewer and water services. In addition, we fought for and were successful in allowing voters to repeal the $4.00 per day car rental tax. I am now working with BarPAC to give voters the chance to pass an exemption to the Columbus Smoking Ban.
That record demonstrates a commitment to voter inclusion in City Hall politics and I will continue that practice if elected.
Hope you will consider casting a vote for Phil Harmon for City Council, and a vote for Issue 2 on Tuesday.
Phil Harmon
Columbus City Council candidate
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« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2005, 01:02:09 PM »
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Phil,
Thank you for speaking out on this topic. Of course I look forward to voting for you on Tuesday, right before going to the Columbus Townhall meeting at 7 PM at Buckeye Hall of Fame cafe.
UNfortunately, we haven't heard much about the local Republican campaigns around these parts, though our ears are tuned to the pulse of whats going wrong in our city. We would love to have you stop by a meeting sometime and let us know what the Republican game plan is for taking it back.
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« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2005, 01:16:34 PM »
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Welcome Phil...
Just out of curiosity, how did you hear about Columbus Townhall?
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« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2005, 02:31:56 PM »
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I know for a fact that Phil has been on w/Bob Connors different times. I would as well like to hear from OTHER individuals within the state GOP as to what we are going to do about this mess we have within Columbus proper.
For those of you who do not follow 610 very well, when Mayor Buck & Mayor Greg held the mayor's office not only did Bob Connors have frequent conversations with them it was common for regular folks like ourselves to receive return phone calls from them as well. Mayor Mike ignored Bob Connors to well after he was elected to his 2nd term.
I also believe the bill that Mark Goodman is introducing concerning the failure to report sexual assualts should be a Felony of the first degree holding traditional penalities as well the permanent loss of that individual's professional license (teaching certificate, peace officer certificate or any other medicial licenesing) this much is owed to the victims of these crimes whether it be the youngest or the oldest of our community.
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I don't need John Kerry or big brother to wipe my ass, don't need Ted Kennedy to spill my glass, Al Not So Sharpton is a racist lying horses ass, Redistribution is a fkn laugh, the whole damn world can kiss my a**.
I don't need nobody to hold my hand, don't need nobody, I can stand. Make it on my own in a Rock-n-Roll band, kiss my ass cuz I'm a American.
Ya say you're friends with Michael Moore. Then you are friends with pimps & whores, The 2nd Amendment aint about no sport, no ri
Has the Republican Party given up on Columbus?
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2005, 04:13:03 PM »
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Dear Robert, Tweet:
Thank you.
I've been a member here for a few months, helps me keep track of things people are talking about.
Tonight on WTVN-610 AM, Cornell McCleary will be interviewing Ian James from BarPAC about Issue 2.
Tommorow, BarPAC goes back to the Ohio Elections Commission for a trial against Smoke-Free. We will present our case that Smoke-Free violated Ohio Campaign Finance laws.
If I survive the Primary on Tuesday, I would be happy to meet and discuss campaign strategy options.
Take care,
Phil Harmon
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« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2005, 07:19:34 PM »
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Phil,
The thing I questioned during the presidential election was the wording of the last issue, did I really vote the way I wanted to. I felt it was extremely misleading and I wonder how many people may have not voted the way they had intented.
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I don't need John Kerry or big brother to wipe my ass, don't need Ted Kennedy to spill my glass, Al Not So Sharpton is a racist lying horses ass, Redistribution is a fkn laugh, the whole damn world can kiss my a**.
I don't need nobody to hold my hand, don't need nobody, I can stand. Make it on my own in a Rock-n-Roll band, kiss my ass cuz I'm a American.
Ya say you're friends with Michael Moore. Then you are friends with pimps & whores, The 2nd Amendment aint about no sport, no ri
Has the Republican Party given up on Columbus?
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2005, 10:32:38 AM »
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Before I mention any of this, I would like to say that Phil Harmon has my respect.
It's a demographic trend over the last decade. Republicans are moving out of crime-ridden, over-taxed, and over-regulated Columbus.
Delaware county is the 8th fastest growing county in the nation and its a direct result of Republican migration. Licking, Madison, Fairfield, and Pickaway are getting some of it too.
It is also true what Jensta says. There are "non-compete" agreements all the time and it is especially rampant in Franklin county. I've spoken with several individuals both Democrats and Republicans who were sore that they couldn't run in their neighborhoods.
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« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2005, 03:29:06 PM »
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While there are non-compete plans through out politics, I have never heard of one in a mayor's race. Who would have run against Coleman in 2003? Over the last several years, when the Franklin County DemocRATic Party has been able to id candidates as Dems, I beleive only one Republican has won a contested race, and that was Dewey Stokes. In judidical (non-partisan) races, the County Repubs have faired better. As long as the party can't compete in Columbus, Rs will continue to lose county-wide races. Maybe that will change with Phil...
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« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2005, 02:51:33 PM »
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I remember writing an editorial on this subject last year. It was particularly frustrating because the Franklin County Republican Party refused to endorse Jim Timko for Treasurer of Franklin County, and I was having a difficult time understanding why, at least until Brad Sinnott spoke publically about these deals. Here is the editorial:
To the Editor:
Franklin County Residents who were curious why 5 out of the 9 county wide offices that were up for election this November were uncontested may have received their answer, courtesy of "This Week". Apparently, according to Brad Sinnott, chairman of the Republican Central Committee, both parties got together, in advance, and discussed what races the parties would field candidates and which races they would not. What results is nothing less than the systematic disenfranchisement of over 1 million Franklin County Voters with regards to the 5 uncontested positions.
In order to understand why this is so, Franklin County residents need to understand a basic fact. It is not possible to get elected to a county wide office without the support of one of the two major parties. The county is too big and the races are too expensive for individuals to go it alone. If the parties decide, for whatever reason, that they will simply not give that support to anyone in exchange for the other party agreeing to not support a candidate in another race, Franklin County voters are denied a choice, as they have been denied a choice this year in the races for Coroner, Prosecutor, Engineer, Sheriff and County Recorder.
It is easy to imagine that these types of deals have been going on for years now. In 2003, 3 of the 5 winners of judicial races were candidates who were elected without opposition on the ballot, and the Republicans didn't bother to field a candidate for Mayor of Columbus, allowing Michael Coleman to run unopposed. Taken to an extreme, is it such a stretch that one day, unknown party bosses behind closed doors, not voters, will determine who your state representatives are, or even the person that represents you in congress.
Sure, no one is going to lose sleep because they don't get to vote for the county coroner, but there is a principle here as fundamental to democracy as any other - one man, one vote. This principle is being violated in 2004, at least for the 5 county-wide elected offices that have already been decided, because former Republican Party Chairman Michael Colley and Democratic chairman Deny White cast the only two votes that mattered, and that's not the way our system is supposed to work.
Franklin County Voters, Democrats and Republicans alike, can do something about this at the grass roots. They can contact the individual that represents them on their respective parties central committees and tell them that back room deal making is wrong and that democracy is best served when voters get a choice in every election. Of course, you might not find a receptive ear - over 80% of the central committee representatives in Franklin County were elected this past March with no opposition.
Respectfully,
Marc Schare
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« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2005, 03:21:37 PM »
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Excellent letter. I've written in about the very same thing myself.
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« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2005, 04:45:20 PM »
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I was having a difficult time understanding why, at least until Brad Sinnott spoke publically about these deals.
Wow. I've heard Brad talk about this, but I didn't realize he went public with it. I suppose the parties feel untouchable?
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