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Topic: Nationalhealth care=gov't ownership of our bodies?  (Read 677 times)
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« on: December 02, 2005, 09:32:46 PM »
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This came across my desk... I believe it was written by William Peirce, Libertarian candidate for governor. I happen to agree:

Obese people in East Suffolk, England, will not receive knee or hip
replacements from the National Health Service.  Amy Ridenour's National
Center Blog has the story and more detail is available in Dani Garavelli's
article in Scotland on Sunday, Nov. 27, 2005.  "Obese" here means Body Mass
Index greater than 30, which translates into 168 pounds for someone 5'2" or
210 for someone 5'10", for example.

Once medical care is free for the consumer, you have to have some other way
to ration it because it is certainly not free for the taxpayers.  Ohio has
to confront the same problem with its Medicaid program that is threatening
to swallow the whole state budget.  It is interesting, though, that
socialized medicine leads very quickly to state ownership of our bodies.
You aren't permitted to be a fat slob, drunkard, smoker, or drug abuser
because it costs me too much.

How about a system where the government isn't involved in our personal
lives, and each person takes responsibility for the consequences of his own
behavior?
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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2005, 09:47:45 PM »
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What are you proposing?
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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2005, 10:09:51 PM »
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Oh, I'm not. That's a quote from Bill Peirce. Perhaps Robert Butler can fill us in.
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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2005, 10:28:03 PM »
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Then I wonder what HE is proposing.  Was he planning on going somewhere with his comments?  It's like we were left hanging.
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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2005, 12:54:21 AM »
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Hey, who told you my body mass is over 30 and I just moved England!!  That's between me and my govt, Peter!

Seriously, I'm sure Peirce was making a point about Medicaid.  Most people don't know how brutal and out of date they are.  (They use MS-DOS instead of Windows for crying out loud, I have a really good deal on an Apple IIC if they decide to upgrade)

 
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