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Ayn Rand's most ambitious novel may finally be brought to the bigscreen after years of false starts.
Lionsgate has picked up worldwide distribution rights to "Atlas Shrugged" from Howard and Karen Baldwin ("Ray"), who will produce with John Aglialoro.

As for stars, book provides an ideal role for an actress in lead character Dagny Taggart, so it's not a stretch to assume Rand enthusiast Angelina JolieAngelina Jolie's name has been brought up. Brad PittBrad Pitt, also a fan, is rumored to be among the names suggested for lead male character John Galt.

"Atlas Shrugged," which runs more than 1,100 pages, has faced a lengthy and circuitous journey to a film adaptation.

The Russian-born author's seminal tome, published in 1957, revolves around the economic collapse of the U.S. sometime in the future and espouses her individualistic philosophy of objectivism. The violent, apocalyptic ending has always posed a challenge but could prove especially so in the post-9/11 climate.

http://www.variety.com/VR1117942127.html

Sweet!

And it will only be a 6 hour movie

[Edmund Burke]

The timing's way off...this movie should have been made back in the mid-1980s, or perhaps in the mid-1990s.  The "cult of the entrepreneur" isn't nearly as popular today.

I don't really understand why people like Rand.  Like any ideology, it's overwrought and insensible to what happens in the real world.  

The real John Galt's of the world make multi-million dollar salaries, and they hire creative innovators.   Hiring people to invent for you and then branding it isn't hero-stuff...sorry.  I agree that mobilizers/organizers are important, but creative genius is just as important.

And none of it matters a damn without working people to carry it through.  I think the cult of the individual is just as wrongheaded as the cult of the collective...it takes a balance, and we should praise human cooperation and vision.

Sweet!

And it will only be a 6 hour movie 

If they are smart, they will make it a trilogy, or like those serial movies of the 20's and 30's.

Dain, as usual, you are off the mark again. This is a great opportunity to introduce this classic to a new generation that have been censored from Ayn Rand's works. Show me any required book list that requires this reading. I grew up next to an English Prof at OSU and he has never even read it.

I don't really understand why people like Rand. Like any ideology, it's overwrought and insensible to what happens in the real world.

She is like FOx News, she provided the balancing message to all the liberal trash that dominates literature.

The real John Galt's of the world make multi-million dollar salaries, and they hire creative innovators. Hiring people to invent for you and then branding it isn't hero-stuff...sorry. I agree that mobilizers/organizers are important, but creative genius is just as important.

Just imagine a world without the JDRs, Carnegies, Astors, Gates, the rober barons and what you get is Cuba. Thanks but no thanks, I want a world that rewards excelence and success, not one that drags everyone down to the gutter of egalitarianism.

And none of it matters a damn without working people to carry it through. I think the cult of the individual is just as wrongheaded as the cult of the collective...it takes a balance, and we should praise human cooperation and vision.

Believe me, working people benefit far more from Gates, then he does of them. Would you rather be a worker working for Bill Gates or Fidel Castro? Once again Dain, you lose on every point.

 

I believe Dain and AdamSmith are both right.

As I often say- I once was a Randian, then I turned 15 years old.

First of all, I can't stand Ayn's philosophy. The goals of radical individualists are unobtainable. The philosophy is intellectually dishonest- It is the ultimate paradox, which mixes anarchy with absolute property rights and capitalism. I would suppose their plan would take a 1 world government, and the government would be small enough to fit in a backyard wading pool. Sounds like a situation ripe to be taken over by tyrants and despots.

However, I enjoy Ayn's books. They may be 10 times longer than they should be (fountainhead's massive court-room speech took forever to get though). I love stories of successful business men. And Ayn may have not intended to do this, but in the Fountainhead, I thought it was a warning for how cold your life can be if you follow such a rigid philosophy. (And the rape of Dominique is just disturbing. I don't get how that doesn't violate Ayn's philosophy.)

I think objectivism less of a philosophy, and more of a guideline as to how a business should be run: only exist to return a profit to shareholders. Anything outside of that is simply an exercise in considering the impossible.

What objectivists fail to realize is how important the family, faith, and community are. Without reverence to the almighty, or without a society full of moral people, laws are impossible to enforce. A conservative rightfully understands that the best social program is to promote a traditional organization of families, so children and spouses do not have to rely on government. It is only with this structure of Christian-values and traditional families can capitalism reach its fullest potential.

But I would much rather have a lot of Randians around than a bunch of liberals. God bless them, as anyone who wants to cut my taxes more than I do can't be all that bad.  

And I would see a movie with Angelina Jolie in it even if she was starring in a film about Cindy Sheehan.

[Edmund Burke]

I agree with the PM on Rand's blindness to the cultural warp and woof needed to make capitalism work...but that's just one of her flaws. [/size][/font]

This is a great opportunity to introduce this classic to a new generation that have been censored from Ayn Rand's works.  AND She is like FOx News, she provided the balancing message to all the liberal trash that dominates literature.

If you are saying she's an anecdote to Marx, well...it's kind of like using arsenic for syphillis.  Works (sort of), but the side-effects are crazy bad.  And that kind of thinking is essentially Marxist...it's called the dialectic.  Diametrically opposing camps duking it out, and a compromise occurs -- that's Marx' central mechanism of social change.  I prefer gradual change using our knowlege of human nature...that's the least harmful and most fruitful form of cultural change.  So...even as hyperbole, I don't have much use for Rand.

And, as is your wont, you take my position and 'extremify' it, and then you trot out the Cuban carboats!  As I clearly said in my post, I appreciate the importance of people like Bill Gates.  But unlike Rand, I don't think of everyone else as steaming piles of dogshit.  The 'Atlases' among us have plenty of help accomplishing the things they do, and not all of these are 'looters'.  

No man is an island, and no entrepreneur works alone.  Rand is a polemicist, pure and simple, and really no better than Marx when it comes to distorting reality.[/size][/font]

Dain:

You are in trouble   .  Well said.  I agree with all you say.

The Shadow knows :ph34r:  

[Edmund Burke]

Yea, I AM in trouble when you start agreeing with me!  Cut it out!

I grew up next to an English Prof at OSU and he has never even read it.

As Michael Howard points out, Rand uses 100 words when 1 will do...she's not a good example for English majors - her works fall more into the philosophy, poly sci curriculum I would think.

No man is an island, and no entrepreneur works alone.

Very true.  Most entrepreneurs and business executives will tell you that it's nearly impossible to know everything yourself - having the brains to figure out who to surround yourself with and keep them on your side is a far more valuable characteristic than working on only what you know.

But again, as I said in a different post, injecting ideas - no matter how extreme - is important to the debate.  So many people rush to decisions (and polls) without having considered alternatives or educating themselves on the long term ramifications of short term decisions.

Believe what you want - just know why you believe it and be able to defend it with more than party-line platitudes or idealism.  

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Oh no, I can feel my soapbox caving beneath me.

Who is John Galt?
http://www.atlasshruggedpart1.com/?gclid=COKH3ZWVhagCFeERNAodrxzdqw

Who is John Galt?
http://www.atlasshruggedpart1.com/?gclid=COKH3ZWVhagCFeERNAodrxzdqw

Yes! Hopefully coming to Columbus...