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NYC Mulls Ban on Trans Fats in Eateries

By DAVID B. CARUSO
Associated Press Writer

 
NEW YORK (AP) -- Three years after the city banned smoking in restaurants, health officials are talking about prohibiting something they say is almost as bad: artificial trans fatty acids.

The city health department unveiled a proposal Tuesday that would bar cooks at any of the city's 24,600 food service establishments from using ingredients that contain the artery-clogging substance, commonly listed on food labels as partially hydrogenated oil.


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Limbaugh predicted this about a decade ago, that after required seat belts and banning cell phones while driving  and tobacco and all the rest, eventually, we would start to see the food police with all that it implies.

I've been troubled by the nanny state for a long time now. For some reason, "live and let live" is no longer a governing philosophy. We need to control you to protect you. I cringe whenever I hear "Click it or ticket", but it really is no different than the government using the tax code for social engineering.

This is truly a slippery slope. Can a lawsuit against "big sugar" be far behind? I am, after all, addicted to Kellogg's Frosted Flakes and the fact that I eat to much of it can't possibly be my fault, can it?

 

Remember back in the day when the motorcyclists had the same warning? I understand the concept of helmets, my question is why does the govt need to be so involved in our personal lives?

It's my decision if I wear a motorcycle helmet and if my child wears one when they ride their bike or skate board. These "smoking bans" are a direct violation of my personal freedoms to make my own choices, not some do gooder who pimps out a teenager on a tv commerical that I'll never see at any of the bars I may go to.

If non-smoking was such a (pardon the pun) hot topic there would be non-smoking establishments everywhere and since they aren't everywhere it's a good barometer of how important it is with other taxpayers.

Not to mention these business owners have a right to choose who serve, if they allow them to smoke there and which foods they serve along with the processes or ingredients they use to prepare the meals.

It's like when a group of individuals are out on the town and the majority of them split to eat leaving some out of the loop as to where everyone else is eating. It's their right to begin with and besides not everyone likes to eat at the same place.  

Earl Pitts had a bit where all of us fat people would have to scarf our twinkies outside in the cold with smokers.

God Bless Earl Pitts and pitts off.

Wow, Tweet.  You're starting to sound like a libertarian.  

Somebody please tell me why the government cares what I put in my mouth, why it's "their" business, and why I should fund the enforcement with my tax dollars!

Folks, we are inching our way to a complete Nanny State.  What next?

We MUST change the climate of opinion from one of control and government intervention to one more congenial to freedom that respects the rights of the individual and limits the power of government.  

In no case should the government legislate morality, including what I eat for dinner.  

Thomas Jefferson was right.
 

[Edmund Burke]

Well, this is a bit over-the-top, admittedly.  Such "nanny-ing" is a very slippery slope.  Nonetheless, even libertarians admit that private behaviors that create public costs (or, in their parlance, private acts that harm the rights of others) need to be controlled.  No one thinks blind folks should be given drivers licenses, for instance, nor that one landowner has the right to dump toxic waste on another's land.  Just so, as long as we use collective means to pay for medicine (whether Medicaid/care or private health insurance), there will be pressure to legislate personal habits.

As a conservative, I don't rule this kind of thing out on principle.  I do insist that the science be there to prove harm, and that non-governmental "fixes" such as higher insurance premiums be used whenever possible rather than regulations.

[real science]

I can hang w/that Dain the only difference is that there needs to be real science not the junk stuff to slide either side's agenda by to further their cause.

 

[Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of all those who threaten it.]

The problem I have with it is, when is the government going to realize that being fat is a personal choice and not a disbility.  Me, Im a big dude.  Tall and fat.  But am I going to get a handicap sticker anytime soon?  No!  As for this bad on trans-fats.  NYC is supposed to have some of the best resturants in the world.  Now what, is all this food going to taste bland now?  Way to just kill an entire industry.

[Edmund Burke]

Well, I'm not saying "society" is to blame for fatness, but I don't think it's a strict matter of personal choice either.  If we are prepared to blame people for not being able to exert sufficient willpower to remain skinny is a world of intense temptation (i.e., sugary and fatty foods), I suppose you can say it's simply a matter of character.

I see it as much more complicated than "personal choice."  I've known people, for instance, who had the fortitude to get Ph.D.'s and yet couldn't seem to control their own weight, for instance.  Being overweight isn't just a matter of willpower or the ability to defer immediate gratification, in short.  Some people are born overweight, they are taught poor eating habits, and then the spiral starts...they get heavier, exercise becomes downright painful, they eat out of guilt or boredom, the gain more weight, exercise becomes even more painful.  Much like alcoholics, in order to lose weight they must constantly micromanage their diets, but unlike alcoholics, they can't just go "cold turkey."  So...unless they are anal-retentive, such micromanaging/obsessive behavior gets old mighty quick, and it's back to blimp city.

Restricting the food choices of people who AREN'T cursed isn't the way to go...we agree on that at least.