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[predictable and expected result]

IS, this is the predictable and expected result. Unless you develop a way to prevent rejection, this reseach is doomed to failure.

The researchers speculate this may be to do with the monkeys beginning to reject foreign tissue, and suggested that further research would need to be done suppressing their immune systems.

In other words, this science is a waste of money that could be better spend elsewhere.

http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2007/06...tep_forwar.html


 

I'm glad that neither you nor I have any say about funding stem cell research.

I'm modest enough to admit that I don't know where the money should go. I'll leave it to others more qualified than I am to decide the matter.

I'm modest enough to admit that I don't know where the money should go. I'll leave it to others more qualified than I am to decide the matter.

It is simple logic, if one approach has all the benefits of the other, without the costs, you focus on the one with the maximum benefit to cost ratio. Embryonic stem cell research is a political issue.

Obviously, simple logic will give you

Premise 1: If one approach A has all the benefits of another approach B
Premise 2: B involves more risks than A
Premise 3: Chose the approach with the higher benefit/cost ratio.
Therefore: A, having a higher benefit/cost ratio, is the one to choose.

Logic will not tell you which approach has the more risks or the higher probability of  benefiting anyone. That is a scientific matter with a bit of accounting thrown in.

Certainly embryonic stem cell research is a political issue. That isn’t saying anything interesting.

Any activity, in whole or in part, paid for with tax dollars or regulated by government is a political issue.

Space flight is a political issue but I would leave it to rocket design engineers to decide what sort of propulsion system and fuel the next manned space vehicle should use.
 

British body backs inter-species clones

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Making human-animal embryos for scientific experiments should be allowed because of the benefits to science and medicine, British experts said in a report released for Sunday.

Such embryos should never, however, be implanted into either a woman or an animal, said the Academy of Medical Sciences.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070617/sc_nm/...s_chimeras_dc_1
 

Scientists Hail Advance in Creating Stem Cells
Right now, a woman's eggs are considered a necessary ingredient for one of the most promising directions for stem cell therapy — creating stem cells tailored to an individual patient. But human eggs are in short supply, and using them is ethically contentious. Now two groups of scientists report that they've found ways to make the cells without starting with an unfertilized egg.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.p...toryId=10785993

Obviously, simple logic will give you

Premise 1: If one approach A has all the benefits of another approach B
Premise 2: B involves more risks than A
Premise 3: Chose the approach with the higher benefit/cost ratio.
Therefore: A, having a higher benefit/cost ratio, is the one to choose.

Logic will not tell you which approach has the more risks or the higher probability of benefiting anyone. That is a scientific matter with a bit of accounting thrown in.

Thanks again IS for demonstrating that Democrats just don't seem to understand the issues.

What is the risk? Well, using embryonic stem cell products results in an almost 100% certainty of rejection, there is essentially a 0% chance of rejection from adult stem cell products. What is the risk to the individual of using adult stem cells? Almost none. Embryonic stem cells often need the end a life to acquire them.

The risk of embryonic stem cells are far greater that adult stem cells, and as the most recent finds, may not even be necessary any more.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.p...toryId=10785993

Certainly embryonic stem cell research is a political issue. That isn’t saying anything interesting.

When you can sway elections on this issue it is very interesting. It is shocking how Democrats can turn such issues, with only infinitesimally small probabilities of helping society into National Issues. I guess if you don't have any answers or solutions, they just have to make some up. Global Warming, Stem cell, etc etc. What are their solution to the real issues? Entitlements, education, National Defense?

Any activity, in whole or in part, paid for with tax dollars or regulated by government is a political issue.

Yep, do you want them to follow California and pick and choose winners? Or do you want the Government to facilitate those who know what is important. Has private industry run to this issue? Nope, that is why California has to pony up.

Space flight is a political issue but I would leave it to rocket design engineers to decide what sort of propulsion system and fuel the next manned space vehicle should use.

OK, why not have your beloved Government fund an AIDS vaccine? Once again, your priorities are so far out of whack. AIDS deaths are a certainty, stem cell is highly speculative at best. What do Democrats fund? Stem Cells so they can get elected.  

['huge deal']

Stem cell breakthrough a 'huge deal'

'Milestone' stem cell advance reported

Story Highlights
Scientists: Embryonic stem cell equivalents created from adult human skin cells

Avoids ethical, political, practical obstacles of cloning embryos to make stem cells

Expert: "Tremendous scientific milestone"; likened to Wright Brothers' first plane

Technique creates cancer risk; scientists say it can be avoided in the future


NEW YORK (AP) -- Scientists have made ordinary human skin cells take on the chameleon-like powers of embryonic stem cells, a startling breakthrough that might someday deliver the medical payoffs of embryo cloning without the controversy.


One of the breakthrough teams works in the lab of James Thomson, here with lab manager Jessica Antosiewicz.

 Laboratory teams on two continents report success in a pair of landmark papers released Tuesday. It's a neck-and-neck finish to a race that made headlines five months ago, when scientists announced that the feat had been accomplished in mice.

The "direct reprogramming" technique avoids the swarm of ethical, political and practical obstacles that have stymied attempts to produce human stem cells by cloning embryos.

Scientists familiar with the work said scientific questions remain and that it's still important to pursue the cloning strategy, but that the new work is a major coup.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/11/20/stem....s.ap/index.html

Scientists Claim Embryonic Stem Cell Advance

Reprogrammed mouse cells avoid controversial destruction of embryos

updated 7:34 p.m. ET,
Wed., June. 6, 2007
NEW YORK  

In a leap forward for stem cell research, three independent teams of scientists reported Wednesday that they have produced the equivalent of embryonic stem cells in mice using skin cells without the controversial destruction of embryos.

If the same could be done with human skin cells — a big if — the procedure could lead to breakthrough medical treatments without the contentious ethical and political debates surrounding the use of embryos.

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