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Topic: Why Martin Luther King Was Republican  (Read 1375 times)
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« on: April 04, 2008, 04:07:21 PM »
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It should come as no surprise that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican. In that era, almost all black Americans were Republicans. Why? From its founding in 1854 as the anti-slavery party until today, the Republican Party has championed freedom and civil rights for blacks. And as one pundit so succinctly stated, the Democrat Party is as it always has been, the party of the four S's: slavery, secession, segregation and now socialism.

It was the Democrats who fought to keep blacks in slavery and passed the discriminatory Black Codes and Jim Crow laws. The Democrats started the Ku Klux Klan to lynch and terrorize blacks. The Democrats fought to prevent the passage of every civil rights law beginning with the civil rights laws of the 1860s, and continuing with the civil rights laws of the 1950s and 1960s.


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Which Party is the Civil Rights Party?


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From its founding in 1854 as the anti-slavery party until today, the Republican Party has championed freedom and civil rights for blacks. And as one pundit so succinctly stated, the Democrat Party is as it always has been, the party of the four S's: slavery, secession, segregation and now socialism.

It was the Democrats who fought to keep blacks in slavery and passed the discriminatory Black Codes and Jim Crow laws. The Democrats started the Ku Klux Klan to lynch and terrorize blacks. The Democrats fought to prevent the passage of every civil rights law beginning with the civil rights laws of the 1860s, and continuing with the civil rights laws of the 1950s and 1960s.



Slavery is the single greatest stain on our nation that continues to haunt us to this very day.  The founders of our nation implicitly provided constitutional protection of it.

It is true that the Democrats were very much responsible for the keeping blacks, in effect, in slavery until the 1940s.  You’ll have to enlighten me about what the Republicans did to help blacks between, say 1880 and 1940.

As a former Republican and as someone whose family has been Republican since 1860 I fail to see any reason to be particularly proud of the Republican party in that period between Reconstruction and the end of WWII. Please enlighten me.  Or to be proud of the Republican record on civil rights since Ronald Reagan.

My 5th greatgrandfather was one of the signatories of the 1783 Quaker Anti-Slavery Petition to the Continental Congress. Several other of my ancestors worked against slavery. I am very proud of this heritage.

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/...freedom_5.html#

I am equally proud that one of my cousins was hanged at Harpers Ferry in 1859 for his involvement in the John Brown Raid.  They hoped to cause a general uprising of slaves leading to an end to slavery.  

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/brown/peopleevents/pande09.html

In recent history, the Democrats have a better record supporting the interests of blacks.  Lyndon Johnson was instrumental in pushing through the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act of 1964. Granted, a larger proportion of Republicans in Congress voted for these bills than Democrats (about 70% Democrats / 80% of Republicans), but passing these bills and signing them amounted to something close to political suicide for the Democrats.  Putting down his pen to sign the Civil Rights Bill, he is reported to have said to an aide, "We have lost the South for a generation."

To my mind, losing the South, was well worth it.

When Ronald Reagan delivered his first major speech inaugurating his 1980 campaign for the presidency in Philadelphia, Mississippi, at the Neshoba County Fair he meant to take advantage of growing anti-civil rights sentiment. He thereby ended the alliance between the Republican Party and American blacks  

Three civil rights workers were murdered in Neshoba County and when Reagan announced his support for "states' rights" — everyone understood this was code for resistance to black advances.

The history of the Republican Party since Reagan does nothing to lead me to think this stance has been reversed.

I am proud of my family’s anti-slavery history but I am equally proud to be Democrat.  

 





 
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« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2008, 09:39:33 PM »
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I think they call that playing both sides of the fence.

I voted for it before I voted against it.

Touching really.

 
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« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2008, 10:46:51 PM »
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They call it a "flip flop".
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 think they call that playing both sides of the fence.

I voted for it before I voted against it.

Touching really.


Maybe you call it that. I call it recognizing changing reality and adapting to it.

Even Republicans see their party has failed to stick with it's core principles.
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« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2008, 04:44:05 PM »
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It should come as no surprise that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican. In that era, almost all black Americans were Republicans.

…As one pundit so succinctly stated, the Democrat Party is as it always has been, the party of the four S's: slavery, secession, segregation and now socialism.


Is this a joke?  Why is it that 95% of blacks belong to Democratic Party—the party of slavery and segregation?


 
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« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2008, 10:24:06 PM »
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Democrats Have Kept Racism Alive

The Fifth Column
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There was a big problem with Barack’s mea culpa speech in Philadelphia, defending his racist pastor, Jeremiah White. He failed to mention that over 300,000 white Americans gave their lives to end slavery. He didn’t mention that in 1854, abolitionists left the Democratic Party and founded the Republican Party specifically for the purpose of ending slavery and giving equal rights to all those who had been in bondage. And when he does mention the 3/5ths clause in the Constitution, he totally got it wrong, the way most Americans do. News flash...it was the abolitionists who insisted on it so that the slave holding states could not have their slaves counting as constituents so they could get more pro-slavery representation in congress. This is one of the most powerful battles fought by whites, to end slavery, which has been mischaracterized as being racist.

He needs to read the history of this battle for equality and realize that the party he embraces today was the party that voted against the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments, while the Republicans supported them unanimously. He needs to acknowledge that the two dozen civil rights bills that were passed by the Republicans were overturned by the Democrats when they regained control of the House, Senate and White House at the end of the 19th Century.

It was at this time that the Democratic Party instituted Jim Crow laws. It was not whites that did this against blacks, it was bigoted, racist Democrats who would choose to divide a nation rather than give freedom to those they considered inferior. Had blacks been voting equally in both political parties, there never would have been literacy tests, poll taxes or other restrictions to voting. But because all blacks at this time identified with the party of Lincoln and were actually the ones starting Republican parties in southern states, and running and getting elected as Republicans, the Democrats knew that to kill a Black person was killing a Republican.

If he watched the award-winning documentary, Emancipation Revelation Revolution, he would learn that the first Black Democrat, Barbara Jordan, was elected in the south in 1972, 100 years after Black Republicans had been running and winning for years. And it took a federal law to force redistricting in Texas to get her elected. He would be reminded that almost all the southern governors fighting integration, standing in school house doors, firing water canons at innocent people were all Democrats. And if his parents really were a part of the civil rights movement, he would realize that without whites fighting side by side to overturn laws that had been put in place by his very own party, it may have been another generation before the civil rights movement could happen.

It was not white versus black; it was racists, bigoted Democrats against blacks and whites who disagreed with them. If he saw our movie he would be reminded of three young white men who worked with CORE who were murdered, just for doing the right thing. He would see the incredible sacrifices that white men, such as Senator Charles Sumner endured for the cause of liberty for oppressed slaves. He was attacked on the Senate floor by pro-slavery Democratic congressman, Preston Brooks, who stormed the Senate side of the Capitol and tried to beat Sumner to death with his cane because he dared to introduce yet another piece of anti-slavery legislation. Brooks received hundreds of canes from adoring fans, while Senator Sumner struggled for three years to survive. When he did, the first thing he did when he returned to the Senate was to re-introduce a bill that would abolish slavery. This man was a white Republican. Preston Brooks was a white Democrat. Race had nothing to do with their individual passion to destroy or preserve slavery. It was a passion born of moral values and an understanding of good and evil. That is the discussion today that pastors are supposed to be having and preaching and encouraging their flock to understand. Rev. Wright did not get the memo and gets an “F” in Black history.

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« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2008, 07:09:14 PM »
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Nina May is exactly right

Except she's wrong about the 3/5 provision in the constitutions and she's wrong about the history of abolitionism -- but that's ok

Until about 1980 the Democrats were the party of Slavery, Racism and Segregation.

They are no longer --

Please explain why it is that about 95% of all blacks are Democrats

Ms May fails to address this little fact.

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For Obama and his pastor to preach the “audacity of despair and racism” is an affront to all the people who have given their lives through the years to see racism destroyed.


I suspect that those would fought against racism are far more likely support
Barack Obama,  and his minister. than Nina May. Just a hunch.
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The mood for hunches isn't working today, prove it.

Sad reality, should Barry Barrack Hussein Obama be elected president the race hustlers are out of their long term jobs.

No matter what Howard "the coward" Dean or any other member of the Party Of Slave Owners may do the swing votes of independents will have been alienated after having been lectured about the state of race in the US.

There are no lunch counters showing separation of the races, COTA buses don't have blacks sitting in the back of the bus, I haven't seen any reports of fire hoses being turned on protesting blacks, I've not seen police dogs being sent after blacks and I've yet to see any reports of blacks not being allowed to live in only certain segments of Central Ohio.

What I seem to remember is the Republicans who voted in full majority for legislation when LBJ couldn't muster enough votes from his own party to help pass a constitutional amendment for blacks, I don't remember any Dimocrats organizing the NAACP because it was the Republicans who did the dirty work, the Jews & Republicans who died at the hands of the KKK helping blacks in the south during the 60's register to vote and I don't remember black home ownership being higher under any other president in the history of our country as it is right now. Remember only 5% of total homes across the country are in foreclosure.

My mother's side of the family lost many relatives in fighting to free slaves in the Civil War and as a family we are proud of this. For anyone who fought to keep those enslaved (who had been kidnapped for being the slowest of their countrymen) against their will should be ashamed of themselves for being the most morally corrupt individuals on the face of God's green earth.

This is the single most important fact the Dimocrats are famous for, the saddest fact of all it's forgotten time & time again.

Your all as* and as a matter of fact Dr. Otto Marxist has far more credibility than you'll ever dream of having in this or any other life time.

Either put up facts to prove your point instead of hunches or shut-up.
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My mother's side of the family lost many relatives in fighting to free slaves in the Civil War and as a family we are proud of this. For anyone who fought to keep those enslaved (who had been kidnapped for being the slowest of their countrymen) against their will should be ashamed of themselves for being the most morally corrupt individuals on the face of God's green earth.

This is the single most important fact the Dimocrats are famous for, the saddest fact of all it's forgotten time & time again.


I have family members who fought and died on the Union side as well. I have a cousin who was hanged at Harpers Ferry for taking part in the raid led by John Brown.

I agree that the leaders of the South, such as Jefferson Davis Robert E. Lee were traitors and maybe they should have been accused of treason. By the way, Robert E. Lee presided in the hanging of John Brown in 1859.

There is one simple fact you refuse to acknowledge. Political parties change their structure from time to time. It used to be that southern whites all belonged to the Democratic party and blacks belonged to the Republican party.

These two groups have switched places. It used to be that Southern white fundamentalist Christians were Democrats. Today they are mostly Republicans.

 
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« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2008, 06:40:21 PM »
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Show me the facts, not conjecture.
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