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« Reply #135 on: April 09, 2010, 02:25:35 PM »
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Why Virginia is suing the federal government over the new health care law

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While no one knows exactly how the lawsuit will play out, the issues it raises are of the highest importance to the future of our commonwealth and our country.  Ultimately, this is an argument over how much authority the federal government has in our lives and over the states, and if it will be able to twist the wording of the Constitution so far as to take even more power from the people for itself.  Whatever power the government takes, the people lose.  And history shows we will likely never get it back.

A number of 20th century political leaders warned us that a government that is powerful enough to give us everything we want is also powerful enough to take everything we have.  Providing health care for all citizens is a laudable and worthy goal, but conceding our very freedom and the freedom of future generations to achieve that goal is a dangerous and inequitable exchange.


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« Reply #136 on: April 09, 2010, 09:19:16 PM »
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While no one knows exactly how the lawsuit will play out, the issues it raises are of the highest importance to the future of our commonwealth and our country.  Ultimately, this is an argument over how much authority the federal government has in our lives and over the states, and if it will be able to twist the wording of the Constitution so far as to take even more power from the people for itself.  Whatever power the government takes, the people lose.  And history shows we will likely never get it back.

So, you think the Supreme Court is better designed to determine health care policy? Would you support abolishing the legislative branch and having the court take over both jobs? If the Court overturns health care reform will you fight against tyranny of the court?

What programs in the health care legislation do you find objectionable?   

A number of 20th century political leaders warned us that a government that is powerful enough to give us everything we want is also powerful enough to take everything we have.



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« Reply #137 on: April 10, 2010, 11:59:19 AM »
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"If the states are the laboratories of democracy, Obamacare's Menlo Park is about to blow up."  Now that's funny (if it wasn't so fundamentally tragic..)


Lowry: Obamacare's already had a disastrous preview

By Rich Lowry, National Review

President Barack Obama has an unsettling defense of his health-care reform -- it's merely a version of the plan implemented by Massachusetts.

Obama wants to associate his reform with the one championed by Mitt Romney in 2006 when he was governor of the Bay State. If the liberal Democrat Obama and the conservative Republican Romney passed similar plans, what can be so radical about Obama's reform?

This is superficially clever. It not only gives Obama's plan a centrist patina, it shines a light on a significant obstacle to Romney's likely repeat bid for the Republican presidential nomination. Except for the fact the Massachusetts reform is spiraling out of control.

If the states are the laboratories of democracy, Obamacare's Menlo Park is about to blow up. Unsustainably high costs and high insurance premiums are leading inexorably toward price controls and rationing. Obama might as well boast that he's adopted a version of the California fiscal plan, or the Michigan economic-recovery plan.

http://www.sltrib.com/opinion/ci_14853987
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« Reply #138 on: May 07, 2010, 06:15:31 AM »
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This is the best news I have heard in a while...

ObamaCare: Death Panel for Political Careers
David Obey's announcement that he will leave Congress this year sent political shockwaves through Washington.

By JOHN FUND

When the chairman of the House's powerful spending machine, the Appropriations Committee, suddenly announces his retirement, it's news for budget watchers. But Rep. David Obey's announcement that he will leave Congress this year also sent political shockwaves through Washington. Democrats have even more reason now to be nervous about the fall elections. Mr. Obey clearly figured out that his party has gotten no bounce from the passage of health care and that he was in danger of losing back home in Wisconsin this fall.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704370704575228450125431146.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_MIDDLETopOpinion
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We could say [Democrats] spend money like drunken sailors, but that would be unfair to drunken sailors. It would be unfair, because the sailors are spending their own money.  --Ronald Reagan

Al Gore didn't invent the internet, he invented global warming

The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants - Camus

The person who advocates government planning of the economy always assumes that it is his plan that will be put into effect.  --Hayek
« Reply #139 on: May 07, 2010, 08:33:39 AM »
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Watch Obama make the promise over and over.... and then watch how the truth finally comes out.
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« Reply #140 on: May 12, 2010, 02:54:40 PM »
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New taxes and penalties as a result of President Obama's health care plan.  Viewing the health care reform package from the context of the Tax Code, many new taxes and penalties stand out immediately above the rest. Here are a few highlights:

  • Individuals who earn more than $200,000 for the year ($250,000 for married couples) will be paying an additional 0.9 percent in Hospital Insurance (Medicare) tax, starting in 2013;

    Individuals whose adjusted gross income for the year exceeds $200,000 ($250,000 for joint filers), whether from wages or otherwise, will also be paying an additional 3.8 percent Medicare tax on net investment income, starting in 2013;

    Employers with 50 or more employees generally will be required to provide a minimum level of health insurance for their employees or pay a penalty per employee, starting in 2014;

    Small employers with no more than 25 employees are entitled to up to a 35 percent tax credit on the cost of providing health insurance for employees, starting immediately in 2010;

    Most individuals will be required to obtain health insurance or be subject to a penalty tax starting in 2014;
    Tax credits to subsidize the cost of health insurance premiums will be available to individuals earning up to 400 percent of the poverty level, starting in 2014;

    Health flexible savings arrangement (FSA) dollars will be limited to prescription medications with some exceptions after 2010, along with placing a $2,500 annual cap on expenses covered under health FSAs, starting in 2013;

    A 40 percent excise tax will be imposed on high-cost, "Cadillac" employer-sponsored health coverage, starting in 2018;
    Fees will be imposed on the pharmaceutical industry and health insurance providers , starting in 2011 and 2014, respectively;

    An excise tax will be imposed on medical device manufacturers after 2012;

    and Limits on tax-subsidized medical expenses will be imposed by raising the itemized medical expense deduction floor for regular tax purposes from 7.5 percent to 10 percent, generally starting in 2013.

    Note it is anticipated that health insurance costs will increase by at least 1% due to parents having the ability to cover adult children up to age 27.
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« Reply #141 on: May 18, 2010, 06:58:00 PM »
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0samacare, MassCare, it's all the same...

Massachusetts Insurers Post Big Losses
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2010/05/massachusetts-insurers-post-big-losses/56865/
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We could say [Democrats] spend money like drunken sailors, but that would be unfair to drunken sailors. It would be unfair, because the sailors are spending their own money.  --Ronald Reagan

Al Gore didn't invent the internet, he invented global warming

The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants - Camus

The person who advocates government planning of the economy always assumes that it is his plan that will be put into effect.  --Hayek
« Reply #142 on: May 18, 2010, 09:21:03 PM »
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Can't wait for anti-Obama R's to get on the Romney 2012 train Grin
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The Principle of Subsidiarity
Repeal the 17th Amendment

"peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none." - Th. Jefferson

Oh yea... Run Paul Run!
« Reply #143 on: May 25, 2010, 02:49:03 PM »
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VA AG Cuccinelli on the Federal Government's motion to dismiss.
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« Reply #144 on: May 25, 2010, 02:51:59 PM »
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VA on US motion to dismiss.
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RICHMOND, VA (May 24, 2010) – The federal government responded today to Virginia’s lawsuit over the recently enacted federal health care law with a motion to dismiss the suit.

“We are still looking through the motion and 39-page brief that we received late Monday, but at initial glance, this is pretty close to what we expected,” said Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli.

In the motion to dismiss the suit, the federal government argues:

that as of matter of jurisdiction and procedure, Virginia has no right to bring this case now
that Congress has the authority under the Constitution’s Commerce Clause to order Americans to buy health insurance
that the health insurance mandate is lawful under the taxing power of Congress.

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« Reply #145 on: June 12, 2010, 01:12:41 AM »
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Friday night news dump: White House says 51 percent of company health plans won't meet Obamacare guidelines
By: Mark Hemingway

At Investor's Business Daily, Sean Higgins and David Hogberg have a doozy of a story:

Internal White House documents reveal that 51% of employers may have to relinquish their current health care coverage by 2013 due to ObamaCare. That numbers soars to 66% for small-business employers.

The documents — product of a joint project of the Labor Department, the Health and Human Services Department and the IRS — examine the effects new regulations would have on existing, or “grandfathered,” employer-based health care plans.

Draft copies of the documents were reportedly leaked to House Republicans earlier in the week. Rep. Bill Posey, R-Fla., posted them on his Web site Friday afternoon.  (View the full report here.)

The Associated Press is also on the story. Even they can't ignore the dishonesty that was used to sell the health care overhaul:

Over and over in the health care debate, President Barack Obama said people who like their current coverage would be able to keep it.

But an early draft of an administration regulation estimates that many employers will be forced to make changes to their health plans under the new law. In just three years, a majority of workers — 51 percent — will be in plans subject to new federal requirements, according to the draft.

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/White-House-Documents-51-percent-of-company-health-plans-wont-meet-Obamacare-guidelines-96189484.html#ixzz0qc37Lv2m
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Al Gore didn't invent the internet, he invented global warming

The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants - Camus

The person who advocates government planning of the economy always assumes that it is his plan that will be put into effect.  --Hayek
« Reply #146 on: June 21, 2010, 06:17:41 PM »
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Good 'ol hope and change...hope and change.

Doctors limit new Medicare patients
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2010-06-20-medicare_N.htm


Medicaid expansion to cost Ohioans $1.45 billion
Health-care reform adds 554,000 to rolls

By Catherine Candisky
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

The sharp Medicaid expansion under the new federal health-care law will cost Ohio taxpayers $1.45 billion from 2014 through 2019, according to projections released to The Dispatch today by the state.

The Ohio Department of Job and Family Services estimates that Medicaid - which currently insures nearly 2.1 million poor and disabled Ohioans - will grow by 554,000 people beginning in the 2014 fiscal year. Half of the new enrollees are already eligible for coverage but not enrolled and expected to sign up during a renewed marketing effort, state officials say.

The cost estimates were the first by the state since President Barack Obama signed the sweeping overhaul into law in March.

"Wow. We couldn't afford Medicaid before the expansion," said veteran state Rep. Jay Hottinger, R-Newark.

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2010/06/17/medicaid-expansion-to-cost-ohioans-1-45-billion.html?sid=101
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The person who advocates government planning of the economy always assumes that it is his plan that will be put into effect.  --Hayek
« Reply #147 on: July 07, 2010, 08:05:37 PM »
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Train wreck...yes, I think that sums it up nicely.

The Massachusetts Health-Care 'Train Wreck'
The future of ObamaCare is unfolding here: runaway spending, price controls, even limits on care and medical licensing.

By JOSEPH RAGO

President Obama said earlier this year that the health-care bill that Congress passed three months ago is "essentially identical" to the Massachusetts universal coverage plan that then-Gov. Mitt Romney signed into law in 2006. No one but Mr. Romney disagrees.

As events are now unfolding, the Massachusetts plan couldn't be a more damning indictment of ObamaCare. The state's universal health-care prototype is growing more dysfunctional by the day, which is the inevitable result of a health system dominated by politics.

In the first good news in months, a state appeals board has reversed some of the price controls on the insurance industry that Gov. Deval Patrick imposed earlier this year. Late last month, the panel ruled that the action had no legal basis and ignored "economic realties."

Senior Editorial Page Writer Joe Rago on why Obama is using a recess appointment to install the new head of Medicare and Medicaid.

In April, Mr. Patrick's insurance commissioner had rejected 235 of 274 premium increases state insurers had submitted for approval for individuals and small businesses. The carriers said these increases were necessary to cover their expected claims over the coming year, as underlying state health costs continue to rise at 8% annually. By inventing an arbitrary rate cap, the administration was in effect ordering the carriers to sell their products at a loss.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704324304575306861120760580.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop
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The person who advocates government planning of the economy always assumes that it is his plan that will be put into effect.  --Hayek
« Reply #148 on: July 14, 2010, 12:30:20 PM »
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In special deal, charity gives rationing advocate Berwick health coverage for life
By: Byron York
Chief Political Correspondent

Donald Berwick, recess-appointed by President Obama to head Medicare and Medicaid, is a well-known advocate of health care rationing and admirer of Britain's National Health Service. Rising health costs and limited resources "require decisions about who will have access to care and the extent of their coverage," Berwick wrote in 1999. Last year, he said, "The decision is not whether or not we will ration care -- the decision is whether we will ration with our eyes open." Of the NHS, Berwick says simply, "I love it," adding that it is "one of the great human health care endeavors on earth."

As it turns out, Berwick himself does not have to deal with the anxieties created by limited access to care and the extent of coverage. In a special benefit conferred on him by the board of directors of the Institute for Health Care Improvement, a nonprofit health care charitable organization he created and which he served as chief executive officer, Berwick and his wife will have health coverage "from retirement until death."

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/In-special-deal-charity-gives-rationing-advocate-Berwick-health-coverage-for-life-98403369.html#ixzz0tfuP0CYg
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The person who advocates government planning of the economy always assumes that it is his plan that will be put into effect.  --Hayek
« Reply #149 on: August 02, 2010, 04:16:29 PM »
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Judge denies Federal Motion to Dismiss VA Lawsuit.

Way to go Cooch!

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A federal judge Monday refused to dismiss a Virginia lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of the federal health-care law, handing the law's foes their first victory in a courtroom battle likely to last years.

U.S. District Court Judge Henry E. Hudson rejected arguments from Obama administration lawyers that Virginia has no standing to sue over the law and no chance of ultimately prevailing in its constitutional claim.
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