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Topic: Boycott ABC & Abolish the ACLU  (Read 450 times)
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« on: May 01, 2009, 03:45:49 PM »
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If you have not found a reason to boycott ABC already, such as crappy TV shows, previous attempts to smear the US, and even crappier news shows, that have no REAL news.....here is a real reason.....TREASON. Add to that, the fact that they would hire some nobody, hack, blogger to accost two men at their homes, on camera, about their role in government sponsored activities in the WAR ON TERROR. That's right, I can still call it what is is, unlike the current "head in the sand"administration we now have. This sickening stunt not only risked their lives, but the lives of their families and associates. This is unlike the FAKE scandal  drummed up by the media to desecrate the Bush administration and put Scooter Libby in Jail. Valerie Plame was as much a CIA covert operative as Paris Hilton is, and her husband brought this on himself by going to Niger to drum up fake evidence that there was NO evidence of yellow cake uranium being sought by Sadam Hussein....You know the lefties will use this as a moral equivalency if called to the carpet. There is NO such comparison that can be made regarding this seditious and despicable act by ABC News and their wackjob puppet masters at the ACLU, unless you're a Kool-Aid drinker served up by Move On.org
 
I for one would rather watch reruns of Barney or The New Zoo (for you youngens, they were kids TV shows) Review than the garbage spilling out of that network. Especially when they'd put the lives of patriotic Americans below that of a mass murdering terrorist, responsible for the planning of 9/11. This is just one of thousands of reasons for us to find a way to abolish the ACLU, and perhaps place many of them in prison for sedition and treason.
 
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Disclosing the identity of two psychologists who aided the CIA’s torture program is treason?

How so?

How much of a fanatic are you? Do you reject the rulings of the Nuremberg trials?

Nuremberg led to the establishment of rules barring medical mistreatment, even for reasons of national security. According to the 1950 Geneva convention “No prisoner of way may be subjected to physical mutilation or to medical or scientific experiments of any kind which are not justified by the medical, dental or hospital treatment of the prisoner concerned.”

In 1962, the United States passed the a law requiring doctors to obtain “informed consent” from patients. In 1975 the World Medical Association issued the Declaration of Tokyo which barred medical personnel from participation in either torture or abuse, even as monitors. The AMA is a member of WMA.

None of this entails that these psychologists violated U.S. law in assisting torture. It does mean, however, that there is a rational basis for considering that torture is and should be illegal and that psychologists who assist in torture are committing a horrendous crime.

There is nothing wrong with pointing out the basic facts of a prima-facie criminal case: who, what, here and when.

Wikipedia on Valerie Plame:

After graduating from college, moving to Washington, D.C., and marrying Sesler, she worked at a clothing store while awaiting results of her application to the CIA.[3] She was accepted into the 1985-86 CIA officer training class and began her training for what would become a twenty-year career with the Agency.[9] Although the CIA will not release publicly the specific dates from 1985 to 2002 when she worked for it, due to security concerns,[9][10] Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald affirmed that Plame "was a CIA officer from January 1st, 2002, forward" and that "her association with the CIA was classified at that time through July 2003.[11] Due to the nature of her clandestine work for the CIA, many details about Plame's professional career are still classified, but it is documented that she worked for the CIA in a clandestine capacity relating to counter-proliferation.[9][12][13][14]
Plame served the CIA as a non-official cover (or NOC), operating undercover in (at least) two positions in Athens and Brussels.[15] While using her own name, "Valerie Plame," her assignments required posing in various professional roles in order to gather intelligence more effectively.[16][17][18] Two of her covers include serving as a junior consular officer in the early 1990s in Athens and then later an energy analyst for the private company (founded in 1994) "Brewster Jennings & Associates," which the CIA later acknowledged was a front company for certain investigations.[19]


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