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Topic: A Tale of Two Toilets......  (Read 409 times)
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« on: July 29, 2009, 02:31:52 PM »
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This is a tale of two toilets, which are both located near my office. They are only about 100 feet apart, but toilet number one is maintained by the city, at taxpayer expense with city / county employees. The other, toilet number two, is maintained by the Hyatt Regency hotel chain. Now, without getting too much into details, when I have "business" of a serious nature, I would rather go outside in the alley than to use the city run toilets. They are a disgrace to humanity 90% of the time. Never have TP, always out of paper towels in the dispenser, or the roll is sitting in a puddle on the counter because they either lost the key, or are too dumb to know how to load it. And let's not mention the graphite scratched and written on the walls, and the overall mess on the floor. It always smells like a restroom at the Boston Garden after a rock concert. Just nasty.
 
Now, the Hyatt maintained toilet is another story. That's where I go to feel "better" and very comfortable and clean. Always has TP and paper towels. It's always clean and smells fresh. The sinks and counters are free of debris and puddles. I bet you are wondering why the hell I'm sharing this comparison. Why the TALE OF TWO TOILETS.............
 
BECAUSE THIS IS ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW WHEN CONTEMPLATING THE SO CALLED HEALTH CARE REFORM BILL......WE'LL ALL BE USING TOILET#1 WHILE CONGRESS, THEIR FAMILIES WILL BE USING TOILET #2!!
 
KEEP GOVERNMENT OUT OF THE CLEANING BUSINESS, THEY ONLY BELONG IN THE TOILET!
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« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2009, 09:10:59 PM »
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"BECAUSE THIS IS ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW WHEN CONTEMPLATING THE SO CALLED HEALTH CARE REFORM BILL......WE'LL ALL BE USING TOILET#1 WHILE CONGRESS, THEIR FAMILIES WILL BE USING TOILET #2!!
 
KEEP GOVERNMENT OUT OF THE CLEANING BUSINESS, THEY ONLY BELONG IN THE TOILET!"



My goodness, do you think that putting this claim in captital letters is effective?

Do you really think this is all we need to know?

The evidence strongly shows, your toilet example excluded, that single-payer healthcare systems are far more efficient and far more effectives than our system of private health insurance.

By the way, for your example to make any sense:

What does the city spend compared to what Hyatt spends to maintain their toilets?
Is this city toilet in a city building?
What does the city spend compared to Hyatt's expenses per number of uses for cleaning maintenance?
How many worker hours are invested per x number of user visits for each toilet?

Without this data, how can we reach any conclusions?


It seems to me that we should be concerned about getting ripped off by the healthcare industry. As Americans we spend 17% of our GDP on healthcare and health insurance.

No country in the world, except the U.S., spends more than 10% of GDP on heathcare. We spend almost twice as much as the next biggest spenders: Canada, France and Great Britain. Yet their healthcare systems are either the best in the world or very close to it.

Our healthcare system is rated at 38th best in the world.

Seems to me that that's all we need to know to conclude that government better step in a do something.  Things are projected to get only worse in the U.S. if government doesn't do something. We're projected to hit 20% of GDP within 10 years (or so -- check me on that one).







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