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The 912 Project - Glenn Beck

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A new line for discussion

"From where did the 2009 'swine-origin' influenza A virus (H1N1) emerge?"

A natural reassortment or a laboratory "accident"?

http://www.virologyj.com/content/6/1/207

The Shadow wonders if it really matters except for scientific/lab safety/lab best practices reasons.

Just heard something interesting from a nephew in the military.

"We get vaccinated for everything. But we've been told that we're not going to get the H1N1 vaccine."

Hmm....

http://www.army.mil/-news/2009/09/02/26861-troops-to-receive-h1n1-flu-vaccinations/

This from Promed...An important report.  Antibiotics (to prevent bacterial growth) in the vaccine can lead to serious side-effects.  Not all batches of vaccine contain antibiotics.   One would hope that care is taken to inquire about both egg and antibiotic allergies when vaccinating.

The Shadow communicates all pertinent data (whether good or bad) that comes to his attention.

*****
[4] USA: vaccine reaction
Date: Thu 3 Dec 2009
From: David Price <price16@llnl.gov>


Re: ProMED-mail Influenza pandemic (H1N1) 2009 (112): Canada (MB), 
vaccine reaction 20091121.4009
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Normal reactions to influenza vaccines include a sore arm and mild 
flu-like symptoms for a short period of time after injection of the 
vaccine. In general influenza vaccines, including the pandemic (H1N1) 
2009 virus vaccine, are cultured in eggs, and in very rare cases there 
may be an anaphylactic reaction to egg protein.

A portion of the people who have repeated anaphylactic reactions to 
influenza vaccines (including my wife) are reacting to antibiotics, 
which are sometimes used to suppress bacterial growth in the culture, 
rather than reacting to the egg protein.

Many data sheets for influenza vaccines list the antibiotic as an 
ingredient, but this is not true in all cases in which it is used. So 
for someone with severe allergy to tetracycline and penicillin an 
influenza vaccine shot can be a very risky affair.

- --
David E Price SRO, CHMM
Senior Consequence Analyst for Special Projects, CBRNE
(Nuclear, Chemical, Biological, and Explosives Accident/Safety Analyses)
Counterproliferation & Operational Intelligence Support, Z Program
Global Security Directorate
Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory

Good precautionary technique

   
PHAC_coughetiquette.wmv   

The Shadow is amused

some more information

http://www3.niaid.nih.gov/news/newsreleases/2009/FluAutopsy.htm

The 1st flu pandemic of the 21st century is less lethal than experts
feared, killing only 26 out of every 100 000 people who became ill, a
study by the chief medical officer reveals today [10 Dec 2009]. But
1/3rd of deaths have been among healthy people who would not have
been eligible for vaccination under the present strategy. Sir Liam
Donaldson and colleagues say in their paper published online [in the
British Medical Journal, reference below] that vaccination may have
to be extended to a wider population than at present. An estimated
540 000 people have gone down with swine flu in England since a
pandemic was declared in July 2009, and there have been 138 deaths
where flu was confirmed as the cause.  (read more)


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/10/swine-flu-pandemic-less-lethal

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/6EPG62S6_iI&rel=0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/6EPG62S6_iI&rel=0</a>

via Aude Sapere

Was swine flu ever a real threat?

It's been a good week for drug companies and an even better one for conspiracy theorists. Last Tuesday, angered by the bumper rise in profits being reported by vaccine manufacturers as the incidence of swine flu plummets, the former head of health at the Council for Europe accused the World Health Organization of "faking" the pandemic.

"It looks like the WHO is under the influence of industry," Dr Wolfgang Wodarg told a hearing in Strasbourg. "It was stated in panic-stricken terms that this was a flu that could threaten humanity. This is why billions of medications were bought."

Exhibit number one, says Dr Wodarg, is the WHO's decision to soften its definition of a pandemic last April, shortly before the emergence of the H1N1 virus. By eliminating the requirement that influenza pandemics should cause "enormous morbidity and death", the WHO provoked an unnecessary "scare" that conveniently triggered the activation of "sleeping" contracts with vaccine manufacturers. Yet since the WHO's declaration of a pandemic in June, swine flu has caused just 14,000 deaths worldwide – a fraction of the number who die from seasonal flu every year. This month, the Department of Health reported that cases had fallen to such a low rate that it was cancelling its weekly press briefings.

Reply 66 October 27 the Shadow said:

"If everybody (or at least most people) get infected/vaccinated then the pandemic will end"

and should have added:  and few will die.  That of course is the point of vaccination.  Please review reply 66.  As far as the WHO being in the pocket of industry how is that different from the Republicans being in the pocket of Big Pharma when they passed the overly expensive Medicare part D.

The Shadow is amused

1. Do you have statistics on how many were vaccinated?  I doubt figures would show that an overwhelming number of people were.

2. Is Big Pharma not involved in the current Health Care debate?  Was Big Banking not involved in the stimulus debate?  and so on...Money talks and that's what's at the root of all these "reforms" not the poor. 

Pass the cynicism

"Do you have statistics on how many were vaccinated?  I doubt figures would show that an overwhelming number of people were".

According to the article cited below 61M individuals were vaccinated in the US.  Whether this number is "significant" depends on who was vaccinated.  People in urban congested areas were more at risk of being exposed than people in low population density areas.  Older people were at lower risk of showing symptoms (even if exposed) than younger people.  Certain ethnic groups were more like to show symptoms. Remember also that in addition to vaccination other "precautions" were recommended.  Washing of hands cough/sneeze precautions etc.

 In my view (as expressed way back in October) in these cases it is best to adopt a worse case scenario since if the worse comes to pass and one is not prepared the outcome will be much more severe.

http://www.themoneytimes.com/featured/20100117/cdc-releases-statistics-h1n1-deaths-infections-and-hospitalizations-id-1097410.htm

For the actual CDC report in great detail go to  http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/PDF/wk/mm5902.pdf  scroll to the bottom of the document and there is a lot of data on the statistics of the H1N1 story.  remember that except for the # of hospitalizations/deaths (where presumably the virus was found) there is no good actual data as to the number of cases because states/hospitals stopped testing early in October.

The problem with "conspiracy" theories is that they are simplistic.  They rely on anecdotal information without a thorough
analysis of the many factors involved including those that are unknowable.  They usually are politically/ideologically motivated.


2. Is Big Pharma not involved in the current Health Care debate?  Was Big Banking not involved in the stimulus debate?  and so on...Money talks and that's what's at the root of all these "reforms" not the poor.

Agreed and that will be made worse by the SCOTUS decision.

The Shadow knows

In my view (as expressed way back in October) in these cases it is best to adopt a worse case scenario since if the worse comes to pass and one is not prepared the outcome will be much more severe.

Recommendations based on worst-case scenarios have the potential for abuse.  Do you agree?

"
Recommendations based on worst-case scenarios have the potential for abuse."

Everything humans do has a potential for abuse.  There are no absolutes when it comes to human behavior

 On the other hand, let us look at this hypothetical case.  Earthquake.  San Francisco builds for a 7.5 earthquake, Port au Prince for (whatever reason) does not.  I think you pointed out the difference in outcome.

 The appropriateness of worse case scenarios depends on the consequences that one expects in the case of that scenario becoming reality.

In arriving at worse case scenarios there will be optimists and pessimists.  There will be those who make their "estimates" colored by financial considerations (global warming deniers), those who make their estimates on past experience (any public heath event) and then those who make their estimates on available and sometimes incomplete data. (Global warming proponents)

The Shadow

Just got a report of studies in Finland that show the presence of antibodies to N1H1 in different age groups.

http://www.eurosurveillance.org/ViewArticle.aspx?ArticleId=19478

The table is  at

http://www.eurosurveillance.org/images/dynamic/EE/V15N05/Antibodies_Tab1.jpg

Age indeed mattered.

The Shadow is happy to inform