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« on: January 19, 2010, 06:05:50 PM »
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Like most of you, I have been watching the Scott Brown race pretty closely.  Even if he loses (which could only be explained by more dem fraud), he has rattled the socialists to the core.  Hence these 'leaked' memos (below).  Today has been the brightest day since the election.  Tomorrow will be brighter if he wins.


DNC, White House, and Coakley Camp in a Mexican Standoff   [Daniel Foster]

Washington is already blaming the Coakley camp for today's loss (?!) so, naturally, the Coakley camp is hitting back.

As Jim has already noted at Campaign Spot, Politico has a leaked memo the campaign is circulating, faulting unpopular Obama policies (health care? Christmas Day bomber? Cornhusker Kickback? ding-ding-ding!) and a belated response from the DNC for the race's sudden competitiveness. Here are the talking points:

    National Dems Failed to Aid Coakley Until Too Late

    — Coakley campaign provided national Democrats with all poll results since early December

    — Coakley campaign noted concerns about "apathy" and failure of national Democrats to contribute early in December. Coakley campaign noted fundraising concerns throughout December and requested national Democratic help.

    — DNC and other Dem organizations did not engage until the week before the election, much too late to aid Coakley operation


    Brown Capitalized on Concerns About National Democrats

    — From the beginning, Brown labeled President Obama's health care and cap and trade plans as tax increases. Polling throughout the race showed this to be the most effective attack on Coakley.

    — Coakley's lead dropped significantly after the Senate passed health care reform shortly before Christmas and after the Christmas Eve "bombing" incident. Polling showed significant concerns with the actions of Senator Nelson to hold out for a better deal. Senator Nelson's actions specifically hurt Coakley who was forced to backtrack on her opposition to the abortion restriction amendment.

    — Democrats concerns with Obama's Afghanastain plan forced Coakley to oppose the Afghan war in the primary, which hurt her in the general.

    Claims about Coakley's Scant Campaigning and Miscues Were exaggerated

    — Because of the failure of national Democrats to support Coakley, she was forced to devote significant time to fundraising in December. She also released a variety of plans in December and had a public event nearly every day.

    — Coakley's failure to release television advertisments until 12 days before the election was the result of a fundraising problem that national Democrats failed to resolve. Meanwhile, right wing groups pumped significant amounts of money into Brown’s campaign allowing him to go up with ads first, including negative attack ads funded by the Swift Boat and Willie Horton groups.

And it gets uglier. A senior Democratic party official, responding to the leaked memo, returns fire, blaming the Coakley campaign for perpetrating "political malpractice" and allowing "one of the worst debacles in American political history to happen on their watch". Emphasis in the Politico original:

    This memo is a pack full of lies and fantasies - The DNC and the DSCC did everything they were asked and have been involved in the race for several weeks not just the last one.

    The campaign failed to recognize this threat, failed to keep Coakley on the campaign trail, failed to create a negative narrative about Brown, failed to stay on the air in December while he was running a brilliant campaign. It's wishful thinking from a pollster, candidate and campaign team that were caught napping and are going to allow one of the worst debacle in American political history to happen on their watch that they are at the 11th hour are going to blame others.

    Before the DNC and DSCC got involved there was barely a single piece of paper on what the narrative is on Brown. The candidate in this race and the campaign have been involved in the worst case of political malpractice in memory and they aren't going to be able to spin themselves out of this with a memo full of lies.


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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2010, 06:52:29 PM »
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This is by far the best quote in news this week:

For Boxer, a favorite Republican target, a GOP win in Massachusetts would be a particularly dark sign representing "not just the canary in the coal mine," said Wade Randlett, a leading Silicon Valley fundraiser for Obama. "It's the flock of dead ravens landing on the lawn."

San Francisco Chronicle: Tight Massachusetts race alarms California Dems
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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2010, 07:10:27 PM »
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Like most of you, I have been watching the Scott Brown race pretty closely.  Even if he loses (which could only be explained by more dem fraud), he has rattled the socialists to the core.  Hence these 'leaked' memos (below).  Today has been the brightest day since the election.  Tomorrow will be brighter if he wins.

You can't even be bothered for the results to come in before you claim fraud? 
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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2010, 07:36:08 PM »
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Great quote Peter.  It reminds me that talking with liberals is like being a stand-in on the last 15 minutes of Hitchcock's movie The Birds.  A lot of squawking, a lot of feathers, senseless damage everywhere, crap all over everything..and then they just leave to go somewhere else and start all over again.
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We could say [Democrats] spend money like drunken sailors, but that would be unfair to drunken sailors. It would be unfair, because the sailors are spending their own money.  --Ronald Reagan

Al Gore didn't invent the internet, he invented global warming

The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants - Camus

The person who advocates government planning of the economy always assumes that it is his plan that will be put into effect.  --Hayek
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2010, 09:17:52 PM »
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Great quote Peter.  It reminds me that talking with liberals is like being a stand-in on the last 15 minutes of Hitchcock's movie The Birds.  A lot of squawking, a lot of feathers, senseless damage everywhere, crap all over everything..and then they just leave to go somewhere else and start all over again.

Typical play from the playbook...

Tell a bald faced lie.  Then, when you are called on it, start the name calling.  Don't worry about facts. 
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« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2010, 04:47:36 AM »
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I'll give you the low-down lefty, but only because I'm a *true* lefty. Southpaw, that is.

TonyBlair doesn't converse with ideologues. He (correctly) figures there's no better waste of time than to do so. In fact, he has probably already put you on his ignore list and can't even see your posts. C'est la vie, non?

But to answer your question, claiming fraud is always in the playbook, especially for something like this.

Case in point: Coakley alleges voter fraud prior to any actual voting
or Coakley Campaign Charges Fraud (Tuesday this time)
or their friends, Boston Globe calls election for Coakley, with 8 hours left to vote

It's one of the many reasons Americans don't like the crybabies that infest the democratic party.


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« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2010, 06:40:39 AM »
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I love the smell of Napalm in the morning! It smells like VICTORY!

Question of the day: Do you think the Tea Parties had anything to do with it?

Answer: You betcha! (in an Alaskan accent).

(and Peter knows me too well!)
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We could say [Democrats] spend money like drunken sailors, but that would be unfair to drunken sailors. It would be unfair, because the sailors are spending their own money.  --Ronald Reagan

Al Gore didn't invent the internet, he invented global warming

The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants - Camus

The person who advocates government planning of the economy always assumes that it is his plan that will be put into effect.  --Hayek
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2010, 08:13:49 AM »
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BOOM Shak-a-laka-laka-laka BOOM!

THAT'S THE FACT, JACK!


A revolution begins
By Boston Herald Editorial Staff

It was - for the second time in Massachusetts history - the shot heard round the world, or at the very least from coast to coast and surely in the halls of Congress.

Scott Brown won this one fair and square with his down-to-earth charm, his hard work and his forthright position on issues - and with the help of that much-disparaged by the opposition pick-up truck.

But it is also true that Brown was the right candidate at the right time with the right message. And it’s that message that the White House and congressional Democrats can no longer ignore. After all, if the people of Massachusetts can send a Republican to the U.S. Senate to fill the seat Ted Kennedy had a lock on for 47 years, then the revolution has indeed begun.

And like that battle in Concord more than two centuries ago, this is only the opening round.

Her fellow Democrats will attempt to blame the loss entirely on Martha Coakley, her inability to connect with voters, her verbal blunders and on assuming her primary victory was all she needed. Much of that is true, but it is also true that Coakley promised to be simply more of the same.

And voters here are tired of more of the same.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/opinion/editorials/view.bg?articleid=1226865
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We could say [Democrats] spend money like drunken sailors, but that would be unfair to drunken sailors. It would be unfair, because the sailors are spending their own money.  --Ronald Reagan

Al Gore didn't invent the internet, he invented global warming

The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants - Camus

The person who advocates government planning of the economy always assumes that it is his plan that will be put into effect.  --Hayek
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2010, 10:23:29 AM »
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Tony,
The thing I love is we're not hearing about Ted Kennedy.

I was up in Massachusetts in October.  You only saw items on the Dem primary.  I kept wondering if there was a Republican running.

I guess we all now know.
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« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2010, 10:35:47 AM »
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Quote from Brown.  Hat Tip to Powerline.

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"And let me say this, with respect to those who wish to harm us, I believe that our Constitution and laws exist to protect this nation - they do not grant rights and privileges to enemies in wartime. In dealing with terrorists, our tax dollars should pay for weapons to stop them, not lawyers to defend them."

Brown gets it.

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It's all Bush's fault.

BTW Peter have you developed that Mark 6 Anti Troll Cannon?
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« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2010, 10:44:38 AM »
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We could say [Democrats] spend money like drunken sailors, but that would be unfair to drunken sailors. It would be unfair, because the sailors are spending their own money.  --Ronald Reagan

Al Gore didn't invent the internet, he invented global warming

The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants - Camus

The person who advocates government planning of the economy always assumes that it is his plan that will be put into effect.  --Hayek
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2010, 12:21:00 PM »
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The Mk6 is still in limited deployment over. Looks good though... in tests we've been able to decrease whining by a factor of 4.


But I, for one, hope the dems remain deluded about the reasons behind this all. They're starting to turn on each other like Leno & O'Brien. The last thing I want is for them to realize that it's their policies and true revealing of themselves that is causing people to shudder in disgust and abject horror. Otherwise, they might put the masks back on in the hopes that the people go back to sleep.

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« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2010, 01:14:06 PM »
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There is some merit to that.. but in the meantime HAMSTERDANCE!

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We could say [Democrats] spend money like drunken sailors, but that would be unfair to drunken sailors. It would be unfair, because the sailors are spending their own money.  --Ronald Reagan

Al Gore didn't invent the internet, he invented global warming

The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants - Camus

The person who advocates government planning of the economy always assumes that it is his plan that will be put into effect.  --Hayek
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2010, 06:28:11 PM »
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I'll give you the low-down lefty, but only because I'm a *true* lefty. Southpaw, that is.

TonyBlair doesn't converse with ideologues. He (correctly) figures there's no better waste of time than to do so. In fact, he has probably already put you on his ignore list and can't even see your posts. C'est la vie, non?


That's too bad.  I would imagine that someone who is confident in his beliefs would be willing to engage in a reasonable discussion (without name calling).  I guess this group is neither.
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