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Topic: Why Are Liberals So Condescending?  (Read 355 times)
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« on: February 08, 2010, 06:43:28 PM »
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As a former liberal, I have some insight on this topic.  I can tell you that majority of liberals want to sound intellectual on every single subject even if they have no idea what they are talking about.  And chances are, if they are talking with other liberals (i.e. inside the bubble), the other liberals have no idea about the subject either, so everyone nods in smug agreement.
When conservatives (or other knowledgeable people) confront liberals on the facts, the liberal will go into verbal gymnastics to defend their original (usually absurd) position.  It can be really fun to watch (see early posts on this site)..but it quickly becomes tiresome.  Why?  Because you quickly learn that liberals are consistently wrong about nearly everything but they want to defend their stupid positions until their muscles can no longer move their jaws.
This article is a great summary but it could have hit harder..


Why are liberals so condescending?

By Gerard Alexander

Every political community includes some members who insist that their side has all the answers and that their adversaries are idiots. But American liberals, to a degree far surpassing conservatives, appear committed to the proposition that their views are correct, self-evident, and based on fact and reason, while conservative positions are not just wrong but illegitimate, ideological and unworthy of serious consideration. Indeed, all the appeals to bipartisanship notwithstanding, President Obama and other leading liberal voices have joined in a chorus of intellectual condescension.

It's an odd time for liberals to feel smug. But even with Democratic fortunes on the wane, leading liberals insist that they have almost nothing to learn from conservatives. Many Democrats describe their troubles simply as a PR challenge, a combination of conservative misinformation -- as when Obama charges that critics of health-care reform are peddling fake fears of a "Bolshevik plot" -- and the country's failure to grasp great liberal accomplishments. "We were so busy just getting stuff done . . . that I think we lost some of that sense of speaking directly to the American people about what their core values are," the president told ABC's George Stephanopoulos in a recent interview. The benighted public is either uncomprehending or deliberately misinformed (by conservatives).

This condescension is part of a liberal tradition that for generations has impoverished American debates over the economy, society and the functions of government -- and threatens to do so again today, when dialogue would be more valuable than ever.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/04/AR2010020403698.html
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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2010, 11:41:21 PM »
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The article drips with "superiority" and it is not surprising coming from someone invited to speak to the American Enterprise Institute.  Oh!! Oh!! those poor benighted liberals.

Note was taken of the "former liberal" because it is axiomatic that there is no one more enthusiastic than a convert.  He /she must justify his/her "conversion" even (if need be) reaching into absurdity.

A brief excerpt from

http://www.orthodoxengland.org.uk/repentance.htm

"Communication is essential. The convert who does not communicate (except with a small clique of others who are like-minded) paints himself into a corner, retreating into his own fantasy world. All the more so if the like-minded that he consorts with are part of some tiny internet forum. Such a ‘ghetto’ situation is fatal. People need ‘to get out more’."

The Shadow is fairly cynical
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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2010, 06:31:13 AM »
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Alexander had on online chat about the article:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2010/02/05/DI2010020502723.html

Some interesting comments and questions.
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The person who advocates government planning of the economy always assumes that it is his plan that will be put into effect.  --Hayek
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2010, 11:13:13 AM »
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A very interesting (and for the most part right on) discussion. There was however one answer (see below) that indicates that Alexander may be the victim of the academic myopia that conservatives ascribe to "liberal" faculty.  He obviously has not lived in Ohio.  By the way these postings serve a useful purpose if one follows the discussion. 

"Insulting question: My reaction to this article was very negative, as I suppose the author would expect from many liberals. My question to him is, "Why are Conservatives so insulting?" According to conservative commentators, every aspect of my self and my life is un-American, elitist, and out of touch. My reward for the hard work and sacrifice I gave to earn a Ph.D. is to be dismissed as over-educated. As a working woman, I am pre-emptively judged to be a bad mother. Born on the east coast, I'm out of touch with "bedrock values" and the "heartland." I've saved money to travel, but my observations of what seems to work (or not) in other countries are evidence that I "hate America." I do try to be conscious of my carbon consumption and pollution habits, but I'll tell you, I do it because I'm 100 percent convinced that brown air and dirty water are bad for me and my family and my country, and not because I'm part of a global warming conspiracy trying to wreck the American economy.

So you tell me, why do conservatives assume that everything liberals say and do is some sort of fakery designed to condescend to conservatives and destroy the country? I get so sick of being insulted for every aspect of my life!

Gerard Alexander: If those are the feedback you've gotten from those around you, then that's awful and unfortunate. But I'm unaware of those critiques being leveled by conservative magazines, elected officials, etc. And they'd be run out of town if they did.



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