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Topic: Shooting in Arizona today - Sat. 1/8/11  (Read 1645 times)
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« on: January 08, 2011, 05:45:31 PM »
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Because of this tragedy, I predict that there will be a clamp-down on ANYONE acting up at ANY event where there is a politician present or political candidates present, which means that...... a certain individual in central Ohio will have his antics STOPPED ONCE AND FOR ALL!!
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« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2011, 06:08:54 PM »
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From the Left:

http://hillbuzz.org/2011/01/08/my-congresswoman-voted-against-nancy-pelosi-and-is-now-dead-to-me-eerie-daily-kos-hit-piece-on-gabrielle-giffords-just-two-days-before-assassination-attempt-on-her/http://
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« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2011, 07:27:48 PM »
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The shooter is a LEFTIST.  So, naturally, who does the father and media blame for this?  THE TEA PARTY OF COURSE!!!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/us-politics/8248399/Gabrielle-Giffords-father-The-whole-Tea-Party-were-her-enemies.html
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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2011, 12:21:17 PM »
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Among those killed were John M. Roll, 63, Gabriel Zimmerman, 30, Christina Green, 9; Dorothy Morris, 76; Dorwin Stoddard, 76; and Phyllis Schneck, 79.

I grieve the deaths of the people and sympathize for their families and the tremendous feelings of loss they are suffering.

It will be a time before we understand the motivations, the intentions of the killer.

If political beliefs, motivations, or intentions are involved it will take time to sort out.
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« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2011, 12:31:16 PM »
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The shooting of Representative Gabrielle Giffords and others at a neighborhood meeting in Arizona on Saturday set off what is likely to be a wrenching debate over anger and violence in American politics.


We see that here on this discussion board where anger is the general rule.

Any mention of a differing point of view is treated as unworthy of notice.
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« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2011, 07:54:48 PM »
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Until we find out that Loughner is a Republican, best to take this slow.
(For the record, I think the guy is crazy. He could go either way politically. What's insteresting is the media response.)

"Class isn't dull as we have a seriously disturbed student in the class, and they are trying to figure out how to get rid of him before he does something bad, but on the other hand, until he does something bad, you can't do anything about him. Needless to say, I sit by
the door."http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2011/01/jared-loughners-behavior-recor.html?hpid=topnews


http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2011/01/jared_loughner_alleged_shooter.php
She describes him as "quite liberal" and as a "political radical."


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/09/gabrielle-giffords-shooting-rightwing-rhetoric
Gabrielle Giffords shooting reignites row over rightwing rhetoric in US
Sarah Palin at centre of storm over political vitriol after spree leaves six dead and congresswoman in critical condition
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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2011, 01:47:58 AM »
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ABC Interviews Friend of Giffords Shooter, Ignores Her Claim He's Liberal

By Noel Sheppard |

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2011/01/09/abc-interviews-friend-giffords-shooter-ignores-her-claim-hes-liberal#ixzz1AbmWKLpT


In the comments:

Alec Baldwin urges the murder of Henry Hyde, his family, and ALL Congressional Republicans and their families on national television.....

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/5991332/alec_baldwin_for_congress.html?cat=9

David Guy McKay and Bradley Neil Crowder, two America-hating left-wing terrorists, were arrested by the FBI after conspiring to firebomb Republicans at the 2008 GOP Convention in Minneapolis, Minnesota. The American Media refused to report the story.

http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-194812.html

NPR commentator and ABC News reporter Nina Totenberg wishes death by AIDS on Senator Jesse Helms and/or his grandchildren.

http://www.mrc.org/notablequotables/dishonor1999/welcomeaward6.asp

The Craig Kilborn Show superimposes the words "Snipers Wanted" over the face of President George W. Bush.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/kilborn-cbs-target-bush-0

Nobel "Peace Prize" winner Betty Williams publicly states her desire to murder President George W. Bush.

http://hotair.com/archives/2006/07/25/give-murder-a-chance/

British film makers Gabriel Range and Simon Finch make a 2006 movie fantasizing about assassinating President George W. Bush.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0853096/

Julianne Malveaux publicly wishes death on Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas.

http://www.holeinthehull.com/2010/07/julianne-malveaux-wishes-clarence-thomas-dead.html

Sandra Bernhard: Sarah Palin should be GANG RAPED if she comes to New York

http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2008/09/19/2008-09-19_sandra_bernhard_issues_gang_rape_warning-2.html
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Al Gore didn't invent the internet, he invented global warming

The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants - Camus

The person who advocates government planning of the economy always assumes that it is his plan that will be put into effect.  --Hayek
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2011, 02:02:02 AM »
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It is the narrative that is important to the left, not facts or truth...

http://www.city-journal.org/2011/eon0109ak.html
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We could say [Democrats] spend money like drunken sailors, but that would be unfair to drunken sailors. It would be unfair, because the sailors are spending their own money.  --Ronald Reagan

Al Gore didn't invent the internet, he invented global warming

The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants - Camus

The person who advocates government planning of the economy always assumes that it is his plan that will be put into effect.  --Hayek
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2011, 09:43:45 PM »
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Note the cross hairs imagery?  Is this acceptable? Is shooting at a target with a your political opponents initials on it acceptable?
Is target imagery and cross hairs imagery in political campaigns something to be avoided?

Is is just childish and stupid or is it more serious than that?



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« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2011, 07:39:40 AM »
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A lefty gets back on his meds....he gets in partially right.

Don't Blame Right-Wing Rage This Time
Jonathan Chait: The Arizona Shooting Is Not A Product Of Right-Wing Rage

Conservatives are furious that the shooting of Gabrielle Giffords is being pinned on them. Their indignation is justified. The mania of Giffords' would-be assassin may be slightly more right-wing than left-wing, but on the whole it is largely disconnected from even loosely organized extreme right-wing politics.

The rhetorical attempts to connect Jared Loughner to mainstream politics take two forms, neither convincing. One is to condemn the use of combat metaphors in politics, such as Sarah Palin's web page superimposing gunsights upon Democratic districts targeted by the GOP. Glenn Reynolds persuasively notes that this is a well-established, bipartisan practice:

    Palin critic Markos Moulitsas, on his Daily Kos blog, had even included Rep. Gabrielle Giffords's district on a list of congressional districts "bullseyed" for primary challenges. When Democrats use language like this-or even harsher language like Mr. Obama's famous remark, in Philadelphia during the 2008 campaign, "If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun"-it's just evidence of high spirits, apparently.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/01/11/opinion/main7233387.shtml
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We could say [Democrats] spend money like drunken sailors, but that would be unfair to drunken sailors. It would be unfair, because the sailors are spending their own money.  --Ronald Reagan

Al Gore didn't invent the internet, he invented global warming

The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants - Camus

The person who advocates government planning of the economy always assumes that it is his plan that will be put into effect.  --Hayek
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Arizona Sheriff Blasts Rush Limbaugh for Spewing 'Irresponsible' Vitriol
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/arizona-sheriff-blasts-rush-limbaugh-spewing-irresponsible-vitriol/story?id=12583285

The suspect in Saturday's shooting rampage in which a U.S. congresswoman was critically wounded was unstable and had been known to make death threats in the past, the local sheriff said.http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN0824904120110109

Obama: ‘If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun’.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/06/14/obama-if-they-bring-a-knife-to-the-fight-we-bring-a-gun/
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« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2011, 07:49:51 AM »
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How about this graphic?

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« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2011, 07:52:42 AM »
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The Left Puts a Bullseye on the Right
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« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2011, 08:01:53 AM »
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Blaming Rush is a diversionary tactic?

Redstate: Outspoken Sheriff Accused Of Dismissing Loughner Death Threats

Read more: http://nation.foxnews.com/arizona-shooting-rampage/2011/01/10/redstate-outspoken-sheriff-accused-dismissing-loughner-death-thr#ixzz1Aj9r4XGN
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We could say [Democrats] spend money like drunken sailors, but that would be unfair to drunken sailors. It would be unfair, because the sailors are spending their own money.  --Ronald Reagan

Al Gore didn't invent the internet, he invented global warming

The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants - Camus

The person who advocates government planning of the economy always assumes that it is his plan that will be put into effect.  --Hayek
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2011, 09:55:06 AM »
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Tony/Counter - I had thought this guy was doing a head fake.  Is his office responsible for securing these events?  Loughner's mother may be a County Employee.

Dupnik is giving the defense in this case plenty of material.
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